firamas

the heroic versions dont "suck". what the fuck did you expect out of them? weapons that universally exceeded current raid quality items by a sizable margin?

i wouldnt expect a weapon that you can get with 3-5 friends and 4-12 hours of effort (w/ your nifty full quest walkthrough in hand) to be better than raid gear. and btw, casual players of the world, rejoice!... many of the heroic weapons ARE better than some of the raid gear... of even all of it, for certain classes.

putting a Fabled tag on these things was the mistake the devs made here. it's all a matter of perception. if they were tagged Legendary like the first tier of SoD rewards were, no one would be complaining. for the amount of effort (minimal) most of these "epics" take, the reward you get from the heroic version is WELL worth it.

Demron

Yeah, I don't know why people are complaining about weapons, they'll most likely not use because there are better RoK loot weapons in the game which are easier to get. Not to mention PvP weapons.

It's not like you need to be level 80 to get them, and such.

Swass

Hey Kruhl

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Nihlathak

Damnit Swass beat me to it. Enjoy your tasty mythicals, exile.

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firamas

oh we will, we will indeed! =)

it's really a shame that most of the dedicated, skilled raiders went to exile. these weapons could have been obtained by either city faction, but with only a handful of truly serious raiders left in every guild it's not going to happen for a long, long time.

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p.s. kraken is recruiting a small handful of dedicated, skilled PvEers who are interested in joining Nagafen's elite raiding guild. 5-6 days a week, 8pm EST raid start times (6pm on weekends), and we use an Effective DKP loot system. looking for 2 bards, 1 enchanter, 1 cleric, 1 shaman. must be able to maintain 80%+ raid attendance! (and our DKP system highly favors those who do so). talk to Akran (recruitment officer), Istaril, or Jeramir in game for more info, or submit your app on our boards. serious apps only, please, we are a hardcore raiding guild and expect you to maintain the high standards we ask of all our members.

Cunk

hmm is this like real ... is this like one per server of each like other mythical or everybody will be able too get it after finishing the final epic quest ??

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LFG

Bud, if you want the new raid epics, just do what we do.

Put together a group of 24 adventurers and kill the mobs needed.

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firamas

it sounds... so simple?

Arkarius

What? You mean that whining about how other people who put in dedication to raiding shouldn't get their epics isn't the way to go about it?

Kruhl, don't be a dumbass. The effects on the PvP items, especially the weapons and jewelry have a MUCH bigger effect than the mythical epics are going to have. Averted eyes, stifle procs, immunity to root and snare procs, fear procs when hit. Seriously, just shut the fuck up.

sinuz

then please go to exile Kruhl - no wait, OMG you can't wear the pvp belt there - forget the idea

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