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02-11-2008, 03:41 PM
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Nagafen's Nuclear Weapons Dealer
Character: Jeramir
Guild: Vae Victis
Server: Nagafen
Posts: 241
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Re: EPIC Weapon quests makes EXILE look a whole lot SWEETER
I don't think either guild gets annihilated in raid PvP. Most can agree that when you guys don't hide immunity, there are good fights to be had. We will usually fight even if we don't have the best set up (like the last time in TS we got by with 4 healers in the raid due to LDs). Regardless though, Kraken is always up for PvP and surprisingly not just when we have an 88 x4 on us.
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02-11-2008, 03:41 PM
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Character: Phpmysql
Guild: Vigilante
Server: Nagafen
Posts: 586
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Re: EPIC Weapon quests makes EXILE look a whole lot SWEETER
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Originally Posted by Pett
Oh, it's an x7 now? I clearly remember us only having an x4. We even gave you more than enough time to prepare for you to log off all your mains and log in all your warlock alts. It took you 30 minutes to prepare from already having an x4 in Thundering Steppes while it took us 5-10 minutes to prepare being solo and heroic in Kunark.
Let's not forget all the attempts at recruiting our players only after you get annihilated.
Kraken is becoming Purity 2.0... Boo... Hoo...
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So it's gone from Onyx being best pvpers / raiders to now getting owned by Kraken everywhere it seems. Apparently they suck though because they take a long time to get ready, but it's still interesting to see.
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02-11-2008, 03:52 PM
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sarcasm > you
Guild: Darkhand
Server: Deathwhisper
Posts: 1,806
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Re: EPIC Weapon quests makes EXILE look a whole lot SWEETER
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Originally Posted by Davram
I don't think either guild gets annihilated in raid PvP. Most can agree that when you guys don't hide immunity, there are good fights to be had. We will usually fight even if we don't have the best set up (like the last time in TS we got by with 4 healers in the raid due to LDs). Regardless though, Kraken is always up for PvP and surprisingly not just when we have an 88 x4 on us.
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Oh, right. People in your raid went linkdead. Okay sure... Considering Etherian and I both survived the fight... I call pathetic bullshit on your part~
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Originally Posted by Syous
So it's gone from Onyx being best pvpers / raiders to now getting owned by Kraken everywhere it seems. Apparently they suck though because they take a long time to get ready, but it's still interesting to see.
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Get a clue, Onyx didn't get owned.
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02-11-2008, 04:08 PM
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second worst brigand on Nagafen
Character: Become
Guild: Vae Victis
Server: Nagafen
Posts: 2,000
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Re: EPIC Weapon quests makes EXILE look a whole lot SWEETER
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Originally Posted by Pett
Oh, it's an x7 now? I clearly remember us only having an x4. We even gave you more than enough time to prepare for you to log off all your mains and log in all your warlock alts.
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One dude logs off his main onto a warlock and suddenly Kraken has like 9 warlocks floating around or something. I wish.
Should we bring up the fight in Butcherblock a few days ago where an x4 of Kraken had a flawless victory against an x5+ of Onyx? (even with us giving you a good 15-20 seconds of notice as we paused around the corner in track range) You want to explain that crazyness, please? =)
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02-11-2008, 04:12 PM
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sarcasm > you
Guild: Darkhand
Server: Deathwhisper
Posts: 1,806
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Re: EPIC Weapon quests makes EXILE look a whole lot SWEETER
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Originally Posted by firamas
One dude logs off his main onto a warlock and suddenly Kraken has like 9 warlocks floating around or something. I wish.
Should we bring up the fight in Butcherblock a few days ago where an x4 of Kraken had a flawless victory against an x5+ of Onyx? (even with us giving you a good 15-20 seconds of notice as we paused around the corner in track range) You want to explain that crazyness, please? =)
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Flawless victory after already dying at least TWICE? If you keep coming back, you'll eventually get something. Then what happened after this "flawless victory"? Oh, Kraken called out~
Cry more.
And grats Insurrection on Level 80 and Grats Jeramir/Davram on the most hilarious comment ever.

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02-11-2008, 04:14 PM
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second worst brigand on Nagafen
Character: Become
Guild: Vae Victis
Server: Nagafen
Posts: 2,000
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Re: EPIC Weapon quests makes EXILE look a whole lot SWEETER
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Originally Posted by Pett
Oh, right. People in your raid went linkdead. Okay sure... Considering Etherian and I both survived the fight... I call pathetic bullshit on your part~
Get a clue, Onyx didn't get owned.
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We had 5 healers at start, then Eximo went LD as the fight began and left a group with no healer. Losing a critical healer like a warden when you're already low on healing is not good juju. It was actually the best (longest and closest) fight we've had in awhile. However, raid PvP is a battle of attrition, and when one group is without a healer and you only have 4 left overall in the raid, the small cracks start to become holes, and the dam eventually breaks.
Onyx getting "owned" is a reference to you guys running back to Haven and sitting inside there instead of fighting us again after Eximo came back. Fuck the avatar, fuck the numbers present, we just wanted some PvP and you guys sat on the opposite side of that zoneline like little bitches. I'd call that "owned" anyday. That's twice now in recent weeks (VP doors being the other time you refused to fight).
We'll fight any Onyx raid any time. We're probably not going to be bringing more than 25-26 people (~31 unique accounts in guild kind of limits you), and I really don't care if you guys have an x7. We'll still fight, and one day when we win against those odds, it'll be all the sweeter. You guys better reevaluate what the fuck you're doing as a guild, because it's embarassing and pathetic.
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02-11-2008, 04:16 PM
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Nagafen's Nuclear Weapons Dealer
Character: Jeramir
Guild: Vae Victis
Server: Nagafen
Posts: 241
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Re: EPIC Weapon quests makes EXILE look a whole lot SWEETER
I'm not making excuses about losing that single fight in TS. I'm just pointing out the fact that when we did get those LD people back, Onyx was nowhere to be found - or exactly, sitting in immunity in Haven. Sure, we lost, but several Onyx members shot me a tell saying that we put up a fight for what we had. We'll fight without a stacked setup or several extra groups for an advantage.
The difference between our guilds is that when the shit talking starts, one guild is in immunity waiting for an x2 advantage and the other is willing and ready for a fight. You will not find Kraken hiding.
Last edited by Davram; 02-11-2008 at 04:18 PM.
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02-11-2008, 04:17 PM
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sarcasm > you
Guild: Darkhand
Server: Deathwhisper
Posts: 1,806
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Re: EPIC Weapon quests makes EXILE look a whole lot SWEETER
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Originally Posted by firamas
We had 5 healers at start, then Eximo went LD as the fight began and left a group with no healer. Losing a critical healer like a warden when you're already low on healing is not good juju. It was actually the best (longest and closest) fight we've had in awhile. However, raid PvP is a battle of attrition, and when one group is without a healer and you only have 4 left overall in the raid, the small cracks start to become holes, and the dam eventually breaks.
Onyx getting "owned" is a reference to you guys running back to Haven and sitting inside there instead of fighting us again after Eximo came back. Fuck the avatar, fuck the numbers present, we just wanted some PvP and you guys sat on the opposite side of that zoneline like little bitches. I'd call that "owned" anyday. That's twice now in recent weeks (VP doors being the other time you refused to fight).
We'll fight any Onyx raid any time. We're probably not going to be bringing more than 25-26 people (~31 unique accounts in guild kind of limits you), and I really don't care if you guys have an x7. We'll still fight, and one day when we win against those odds, it'll be all the sweeter. You guys better reevaluate what the fuck you're doing as a guild, because it's embarassing and pathetic.
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So with you fighting us at any time... Yet you evac while waiting on Finks to log on Phineus, only to then die horribly and cry excuses?
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02-11-2008, 04:18 PM
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sarcasm > you
Guild: Darkhand
Server: Deathwhisper
Posts: 1,806
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Re: EPIC Weapon quests makes EXILE look a whole lot SWEETER
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Originally Posted by Davram
I'm not making excuses about losing that single fight in TS. I'm just pointing out the fact that when we did get those LD people back, Onyx was nowhere to be found - or exactly, sitting in immunity in Haven. Sure, we lost, but several Onyx members shot me a tell saying that we put up a fight for what we had. We'll fight without a stacked setup or several extra groups for an advantage.
The difference between our guilds is that when the shit talking starts, one guild is in immunity waiting for an x2 advantage and the other is willing and ready for a fight. You will find Kraken hiding.
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LOL
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02-11-2008, 04:21 PM
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second worst brigand on Nagafen
Character: Become
Guild: Vae Victis
Server: Nagafen
Posts: 2,000
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Re: EPIC Weapon quests makes EXILE look a whole lot SWEETER
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Originally Posted by Pett
Flawless victory after already dying at least TWICE? If you keep coming back, you'll eventually get something. Then what happened after this "flawless victory"? Oh, Kraken called out~
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Onyx brought an x4+ an x2 of block bitches, we had our usual x4 (60 exiles in zone - 24 kraken - 1 dead galrath'avatarwatcher- 1 random exile watching = 36 onyx). I don't expect to win every fight against those kind of odds, and I certainly don't expect to survive getting rushed when we have a contested mob like Tangrin or an avatar on our raid. I do enjoy raid PvP in general though, and I'll fight no matter what the odds.
However, having your x6 lose to a flawless victory against an x4 must be.... a little embarassing? That wasn't the first time Kraken's has a no-death raid PvP fight against Onyx with less #'s either. That's something remarkable, and it doesn't say much for Onyx when you can outgun us by 30-50% and still get utterly annihilated sometimes. =)
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