Ranged combat arts will now enforce a minimum range when Eagle's Talon is equipped.

Kruhl · 02-12-2008, 03:51 PM

What does this change in the most recent patch mean?

Obviously, I think it means no longer can rangers use CA's at 0 meters. But, since the change specifically states "combat arts", does this mean rangers can still use ranged auto attacks at 0 meters?

firamas · 02-12-2008, 04:21 PM

You are correct, the Eagle's Talon was designed with no minimum range, and it retains that. Ranged CA's have always aligned with the min/max range on the bow, which is why they were fixed to retain a standard minimum range regardless of the bow being used.

Kruhl · 02-12-2008, 04:31 PM

And the rangers are still whining up a storm? They can still auto attack for 2-3k, (and even more with double attack) at 0 meters ..something they couldn't do before? And they're pissed?

firamas · 02-12-2008, 04:40 PM

I dunno, I haven't read the ranger boards but I wouldn't be whining if I were them... they got a damn nice weapon that's going to seriously rape when they fix T8 ammo. /shrug

Syous · 02-12-2008, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kruhl

And the rangers are still whining up a storm? They can still auto attack for 2-3k, (and even more with double attack) at 0 meters ..something they couldn't do before? And they're pissed?

Yes Kruhl, people whine. I'm surprised you don't know this. Really.

Kruhl · 02-12-2008, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Syous

Yes Kruhl, people whine. I'm surprised you don't know this. Really.

Hey dumbass, I'm not being incredulous that somebody is whining. I'm being incredulous that somebody is whining about not being able to use combat arts at 0 meters, when they are a ranger, and the item was just implemented a couple of days ago. And they are crying nerf, like they've had this ability all along, and have relied on it all along. Get it right.

Soulja · 02-12-2008, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kruhl

Hey dumbass, I'm not being incredulous that somebody is whining. I'm being incredulous that somebody is whining about not being able to use combat arts at 0 meters, when they are a ranger, and the item was just implemented a couple of days ago. And they are crying nerf, like they've had this ability all along, and have relied on it all along. Get it right.

Hey dumbass its because the class is currently broken and they are not doing anything to fix it, bet you would whine like you do now if your class was still stuck in T7.

Avaela · 02-12-2008, 06:29 PM

<3 oda

Kruhl · 02-12-2008, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Soulja

Hey dumbass its because the class is currently broken and they are not doing anything to fix it, bet you would whine like you do now if your class was still stuck in T7.

The class is broken? This isn't because of the arrow issue is it? I've had quite a number of rangers put the smack down on me, and my gear/spec is purely focused on PVP. Rangers still put out sick fucking damage. It's going to be scary when arrows get "fixed" and your class gets "fixed." Time to roll a ranger at that point. Not to mention now you get to auto attack for thousands of damage at 0 meters, something you were never able to do before.

Nagous · 02-12-2008, 06:39 PM

Considering the group epic is on par with RSB for autoattack damage, which averages out to about 800-1600 on a level 80 non-crit, and most of the better rogues i've fought recently are hitting me 3 times as fast or better with melee and a much higher crit chance for that damage range, what exactly does this give as an advantage? Sorry that you can't stun/root lock every ranger now. While other classes have gotten better in t8 pvp, rangers have kept the same damage they've been doing in t7.