Broncas

Once guild level 80, there should be a shovel that could be purchased that would allow the expansion for whatever guild and it could have a 'must be exile' tag instead of 'must not be exile' tag that was put in in spite of us.

__________________

Davram

Haven's fine. It's interesting to get into brawls and see so many people here.

WillyWonka

Better idea:
Remove Guild Registrar, and forcibly disband current Haven Guilds. Remove the ability to form a Raid while in Haven, limit it to Groups of 6 at most. Tada, you have your FFA PvP and all the nice limitations of being in the bluebie hole. Or even shorter fix, remove Haven altogether. It's not needed for any of the betrayal quests since they are so short. Then people would have to be in a faction, just like was intended when pvp server was put out there. Wonder how many bluebie hole surfers would be going back to PvE servers if that happened.

LFG

Such hostility.

Every player on the server is red to us, and you call US bluebies?

You're a purplie, since your own faction is blue to you. You're half blue, and half red.

__________________

"Bottom line: we're not all being honest with ourselves here." Become, Kraken forums

Daimyo

Lol yeh, city folk think us exiles get a free meal or something..

Litterally everything much worse accept for the fact that I can grp/guild/raid with all 24 classes.

TBH, I like the new influx to haven and the FFA pvp inside is fun!

__________________
The daimyo (大名, daimyō) were the most powerful feudal rulers from the 10th century to the 19th century in Japan. From the shugo of the muromachi period through the sengoku to the daimyo of the Edo period, the rank had a long and varied history. It was usually, though not exclusively, from these warlords that a shogun arose.

Zexxii

or, just make it so they get fame off one another

__________________

Uilamin

Hmmm they should just revamp haven so that instead of it using a zone map of splitpaw it uses a zone map of Mara... and then of course put housing and the other fun stuff like that in it.

Borias

Terrible idea. I can't imagine what kind of retardedness would even suggest such a thing. 90% of this server seems to hate fame for what it does to lessen pvp fighting, and you want to add more of it?

Remove fame and factions in 08! Add a 10-15 level range for exile v exile, and move everyone to haven. There, now it's all done and set for everyone.

Fibs

Agree on the fame thing. As for the rest of your post.... LOL!

__________________
Yeah, I post because I suck at PvP. What's your excuse?

Zexxii

fine, remove it all together, works for me

but there's absolutely NO reason you guys should be able to fight one another and NOT gain or lose fame from one another

__________________