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Old 02-26-2008, 04:03 AM  
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As far as I understand, the ability does work as intended and written.
You don't parry or riposte ranged attacks. Hence, it's implied that this ability works on all incoming attacks, where applicable.
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Holy shit, stop crying.

Coercers are fine.
Just like all the classes are perfectly balanced and T8 arrows exist in the game... lol.. but I guess your idea of ignorance must be bliss
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As far as I understand, the ability does work as intended and written.
You don't parry or riposte ranged attacks. Hence, it's implied that this ability works on all incoming attacks, where applicable.
It doesn't say "where applicable" anywhere in the description. It states, "all incoming attacks" which assumes just that ... all incoming attacks.. and it doesn;'t say anywhere "all incoming melee attacks".. In fact the actual description also assumes spell based magic attacks.. because they also are an "incoming attack".. but I didn't go as far as to want to personally include that.

It should imo work off both ranged and melee attacks.. OR the AA description should be re-worded to correctly define the ability, in which case I wouldn't have wasted my AA..
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To the OP, A coercer friend and myself tested the range on the auto attack, he was able to smack me in the head well beyond my own auto attack range, usualy critting for 800 a swing and dbl attacking as well
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Old 02-26-2008, 10:32 AM  
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riposting arrows, lol

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riposting arrows, lol

you guys are morons
As funny as it is, SoE should fix their AA descriptions!

I would be very happy to parry the arrows to give the enchanters some survivability against rangers (who can litterally auto attack at range and not recieve any coercer reactive damage).
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To the OP, A coercer friend and myself tested the range on the auto attack, he was able to smack me in the head well beyond my own auto attack range, usualy critting for 800 a swing and dbl attacking as well
My point was that the auto-attack wasn't working at the extended range.

Unless you sacrifice a lot in the way of utility (and you hopefully have a mirror to spec back for PvE and Raids), you will have at most 3-4 mlee based CA which can be used (as I understand it) at the extended range.

I have gone for a blend of STR line, AGI line and WIS line for maximum survivability and have 1 melee CA for PvP..

Also, unless you completely change your gear and gimp your INT and casting ability (disruption and subjuration), your STR will be very low indeed, further implying that changing the extended range to include auto attack will not affect our DPS much (especially with a 1 hander or epic)..

However, TBH, the coercer dps is SO low anyway, any increase can and could be considered significant. Especially with the blanket nerf of pets us enchanters recently received.
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look up the definition of "riposte" and "parry"... this doesnt make sense for arrows or thrown weapons... it either misses you or not, you dont whack that shit out of midair =)
Obviously you've never seen Mr. Miyagi grab arrows shot at him like the fuckin badass he is, dumb dumb!
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My point was that the auto-attack wasn't working at the extended range.

Unless you sacrifice a lot in the way of utility (and you hopefully have a mirror to spec back for PvE and Raids), you will have at most 3-4 mlee based CA which can be used (as I understand it) at the extended range.

I have gone for a blend of STR line, AGI line and WIS line for maximum survivability and have 1 melee CA for PvP..

Also, unless you completely change your gear and gimp your INT and casting ability (disruption and subjuration), your STR will be very low indeed, further implying that changing the extended range to include auto attack will not affect our DPS much (especially with a 1 hander or epic)..

However, TBH, the coercer dps is SO low anyway, any increase can and could be considered significant. Especially with the blanket nerf of pets us enchanters recently received.
You understand wrong, melee AUTO ATTACK works, not just CA, its got about the same range of the swash reach. On another note, trying to beef up your str to an insane amount nerfs all dps as a whole, I know i tried to buy out all str gear, raised my str total by about 500, and found the melee dmg to be a poor raise for the effort of getting str gear i went through, with a coercer however, getting the DPS buff nearly doubled my weapon damage, so i'd stick to getting +DPS gear over str gear anyway.
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It doesn't say "where applicable" anywhere in the description. It states, "all incoming attacks" which assumes just that ... all incoming attacks.. and it doesn;'t say anywhere "all incoming melee attacks".. In fact the actual description also assumes spell based magic attacks.. because they also are an "incoming attack".. but I didn't go as far as to want to personally include that.

It should imo work off both ranged and melee attacks.. OR the AA description should be re-worded to correctly define the ability, in which case I wouldn't have wasted my AA..
I know it doesn't say that. That's why I said it's implied.
Obviously, you don't get this game mechanic as a weird little extra bonus feature.
Logic dictates..... no, you can't riposte an arrow. Not because it sounds weird and is way too ninja for coercers, but because that mechanic does not exist in this game for you.

You're reading too much into it. Don't throw away mechanics and logic because of wording.
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