Why rangers should be crying over bow nerf - Page 12

Ajjantis · 02-25-2008, 03:01 PM

Demron is in a 5 man guild, has no friends and has probably never raided in this game. But he wants to kill wuoshi lolol.

Demron · 02-25-2008, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ajjantis

Demron is in a 5 man guild, has no friends and has probably never raided in this game. But he wants to kill wuoshi lolol.

I've raided with Tribunal. /whistles

Demron · 02-25-2008, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Soulja

No point its barely better than the pvp bow, but against other bows its like night and day.

With the current writ system, I don't think I'll be getting the PvP bow anytime soon.

Hell, I deleted a writ with a Necromancer in it, first PvP kill after getting my writ, a fucking NECROMANCER. Took me two days to find a fury.

Raidyen1 · 02-25-2008, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ajjantis

Demron is in a 5 man guild, has no friends and has probably never raided in this game. But he wants to kill wuoshi lolol.

Actually, we are now a 6 man/woman guild.

Demron · 02-25-2008, 04:10 PM

All real life friends and family, something Ajjantis wouldn't know about.

firamas · 02-25-2008, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kradun

When they began to offer uncontested avoidance to all classes. When you miss as a ranger, it hurts... a lot.

And when you hit as a ranger, it hurts... a lot. Contested avoidance affects everyone equally, don't give me that same "i'm a dumbass and dont understand math" argument. You're a bit smarter than that.

If you hit twice as hard and swing(/fire) half as often, you're still doing the same damage over time against the same opponent. The rogue misses MORE attacks (not %, straight # of attacks per unit of time) against that person's uncontested avoidance because they swing faster, but you don't see me arguing that rangers are superior because they "don't get as many swings and have less misses in a fight". That's flawed logic, and you'd call me a retard.

Kradun · 02-25-2008, 04:33 PM

No one said you are a retard. **Edit - Well I didn't say you are a retard.

You are not accounting for the speed of a battle. Eq2 is a very fast paced game. It's not like diablo two where you can keep a battle going on for some odd amount of time.

Time is important, just like you said, but we are looking at different contexts. You get your panties twisted quite easily. Honestly, what you write looks like the "nerd rage" you laugh so much about.

Try reading words as words and not insults. And you wonder why so many people take a horrible stance against your opinions...

firamas · 02-25-2008, 04:40 PM

Dude, I didn't say you called me a retard... I said you *would* call me a retard if I tried to pull that kind of argument.

There are a lot of people out there (on PVE servers) that will honestly tell you that having 100% haste affects a 6.0sec weapon more than a 2.5 weapon. They see a larger numeric reduction in delay and think it's better. It's still a percentage.

And yes, dude, I fully realize that PvP is time critical... but like I said, unless we're talking about a one-shot scenario, once you get past the 2nd round of autoattack it begins to show virtually no difference between weapon archetypes.

Soulja · 02-25-2008, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by firamas

Dude, I didn't say you called me a retard... I said you *would* call me a retard if I tried to pull that kind of argument.

There are a lot of people out there (on PVE servers) that will honestly tell you that having 100% haste affects a 6.0sec weapon more than a 2.5 weapon. They see a larger numeric reduction in delay and think it's better. It's still a percentage.

And yes, dude, I fully realize that PvP is time critical... but like I said, unless we're talking about a one-shot scenario, once you get past the 2nd round of autoattack it begins to show virtually no difference between weapon archetypes.

The difference is in class archetypes, if you missed/blocked/failed to inflict with a fucked ton with your Master and Adept III CAs. It would basically mean the end of the fight for you. Which in the same way as a ranger missing one or two autoattacks would basically mean you really have a slim chance to win if any chance at all, since the fight would have to be 11 seconds long for you pull off 3 auto attacks. You missing with your auto attacks can't compare with a ranger missing with his.

Pett · 02-25-2008, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Soulja

The difference is in class archetypes, if you missed/blocked/failed to inflict with a fucked ton with your Master and Adept III CAs. It would basically mean the end of the fight for you. Which in the same way as a ranger missing one or two autoattacks would basically mean you really have a slim chance to win if any chance at all, since the fight would have to be 11 seconds long for you pull off 3 auto attacks. You missing with your auto attacks can't compare with a ranger missing with his.

Also consider that brigand effects on CA's land 100%.