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02-25-2008, 12:51 PM
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Re: Why rangers should be crying over bow nerf
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Originally Posted by firamas
and seeing as assassins are PREDATORS, the same class type as a ranger, that makes sense. the predator archetype is a mixed ranged/melee high DPS scout... one of em is better at range, one does better with their melee attacks.
srsly, do we really have people here who've been playing this game for years who don't understand the basics of class design? why do i even have to explain this stupid shit to you guys.
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sounds like you may need to do some more research then.
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02-25-2008, 12:52 PM
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Re: Why rangers should be crying over bow nerf
walk the plank gets extended to 35m with reach
maybe auto attacks are 8m but CAs are 15m.
and playing my ranger again i notice the walk the plank even more just when im able to use my ranged snare 40m(max range even with extention) just as i hit that im getting hit with walk the plank.
as a brig i didnt normally open with it unless i had to get close to like a swash cuz it has a 10m range normally. but if you put the right amount of AAs into walk the plank you can use that first, then your stun, then you can use clock and your immunities wont interfere.
i think im gonna betray my brig to swash when i get some more money for loams just so i can be super OP
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02-25-2008, 12:56 PM
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Re: Why rangers should be crying over bow nerf
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Originally Posted by firamas
and seeing as assassins are PREDATORS, the same class type as a ranger, that makes sense. the predator archetype is a mixed ranged/melee high DPS scout... one of em is better at range, one does better with their melee attacks.
srsly, do we really have people here who've been playing this game for years who don't understand the basics of class design? why do i even have to explain this stupid shit to you guys.
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an assassin with frontload up has around the same or better ranged dps than a ranger temporarily.. where as a ranger has completely HORRIBLE melee dps.
assassin = Good ranged abilities, Excellent melee abilities
ranger = Excellent ranged abilities, Horrible melee abilities
Good + Excellent > Excellent + Horrible
i just want them to fix ammo so rangers can be t1 dps again not t2 dps with NO utility
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02-25-2008, 12:56 PM
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Re: Why rangers should be crying over bow nerf
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Originally Posted by silentnomore
sounds like you may need to do some more research then.
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wow, you've truly broken this forum argument wide open with your devastating insight. do you have an actual relevant point to add to this discussion, or should we just start the retard slapfight now?
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02-25-2008, 01:00 PM
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Re: Why rangers should be crying over bow nerf
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Originally Posted by Pheelin
assassin = Good ranged abilities, Excellent melee abilities
ranger = Excellent ranged abilities, Horrible melee abilities
Good + Excellent > Excellent + Horrible
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wow, i didn't realize it was that simple. your equations are interesting and provide so much insight! i'm glad you've made such an accurate assessment of all of melee and ranged abilities of both classes and brought this unfortunate injustice to light. have you sent an emergency PM to the devs about this balance issue yet?
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i just want them to fix ammo so rangers can be t1 dps again not t2 dps with NO utility
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well i'll agree with you there, but that's a PVE issue that affects a lot of classes, and should be kept to its own thread.
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02-25-2008, 01:03 PM
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Re: Why rangers should be crying over bow nerf
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Originally Posted by firamas
wow, you've truly broken this forum argument wide open with your devastating insight. do you have an actual relevant point to add to this discussion, or should we just start the retard slapfight now?
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Sorry just pointing out the obvious. You post here then complain about posting here then you go as far to insult others by saying they dont know how to play thier class, then when its pointed out that its you who doesnt know what they are talking about you become embarassed and try to redirect the entire topic. Good job
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02-25-2008, 01:08 PM
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Re: Why rangers should be crying over bow nerf
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Originally Posted by firamas
wow, i didn't realize it was that simple. your equations are interesting and provide so much insight! i'm glad you've made such an accurate assessment of all of melee and ranged abilities of both classes and brought this unfortunate injustice to light. have you sent an emergency PM to the devs about this balance issue yet?
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Well i had to put it into a simpler form for someone like you.
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Originally Posted by firamas
well i'll agree with you there, but that's a PVE issue that affects a lot of classes, and should be kept to its own thread.
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yes it affects pve but it also affects pvp.. using the wrong ammo affects my raid dps but it also affects my pvp dps as well... Its not like im doing t2 dmg in raids but oh wait im hitting harder in pvp like im supposed to no that not how it works. its broken for both.
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02-25-2008, 01:24 PM
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Re: Why rangers should be crying over bow nerf
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Originally Posted by silentnomore
A wise man once wrote I can sit here and keep my mouth closed and let them think I am an idiot or I can open it and remvoe all doubt.
Thanks for removing any doubt that I may of had about you ajjantis.
Yes we still may be able to auto attack but delay is like what 9sec? Thats 4sec more then is needed for an assasin or brig to kill you. Just because your not smart enough to use anti snare/root pots or amulets doent mean other players arent.
At one time rangers may been close to other scouts never have to brigs imo but that was t7 this is t8. You cant tell me that my inability to solo from t7 to t8 is because I started to suck all of a sudden get a clue. Rangers are not fine niether is your logic.
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Do you know any rangers that do not have a haste item? You do know that rangers get a self haste buff? Countless things that you do not mention. I talked to a ranger yesterday, he said hes sitting at arround 70 % haste. So what happens to the 9 second delay? yep its more than halfed. And i mean comon, any decent ranger can kite you so easily, its not even funny. Unbreakable/Uncureable snare + few more snares and roots via CA. If you still fail, then im sorry - you should pick another class. There arrow system MIGHT be broken, but i see no reason why they should be fixed for pvp when they do certainly fine ( the good ones tho). Getting auto attacked 3 times for arround 2k in a 4 second fight is certainly not fun. I have not even counted the poison procs + quick shots + any CAs. And all that from range. Ive got my own ranger, and i must say that the ranger is the class with the biggest potential.
I wish all our crap rangers on Venekor would stop crying and actually start learning how to play their class. You know they all were used to hit 3 cas to kill people ( focus aim + 2 combat arts ). And now when its actually a challenge people suck. Funny aint it?
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I understood that LFG had admitted that he was formerly an addict, which isn't something anyone should be insulted for.
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02-25-2008, 01:30 PM
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Re: Why rangers should be crying over bow nerf
No use trying to explain it to retards. Especially someone that has 4k kills and act like the know what T7/T8 pvp is all about. Until you start to run around with T7 gear/weapons then stfu. As a ranger there is no way to keep a well geared/skilled player away from you for more than 2 CAs (unless you proc a fear or stun from a cloak). It wasn't much of a problem in T7 cause you could burn someone a considerable amount before they got to you. Now with focus aim gone and T8 bows sucking because of ammo, the most you can get someone down is like 50% then they are all on your ass. 50% of HP of another scout is like 5k+ no way a ranger can melee 5k hp from someone before they wreck his ass. So yea I have to rely on a 1 second stun and 2 second root which give me enough time to auto if I can get the 2m range but I won't see another ranged CA for the rest of the fight. So whats the point of ranged CAs if you can't use them. Sure rangers can still kill noob players just like any other class. Versus another skilled player, rangers are at a huge disadvantage. How many rangers have killed you over the last 3 months Become? or better yet how many rangers have you killed? If you have killed many I bet you thought it was because of your overwhelming skill not because that ranger has a T7 bow with a 9 sec delay(which is like 5 seconds with shitty agility/haste buff + haste item).
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02-25-2008, 01:33 PM
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Re: Why rangers should be crying over bow nerf
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Originally Posted by Ajjantis
Do you know any rangers that do not have a haste item? You do know that rangers get a self haste buff? Countless things that you do not mention. I talked to a ranger yesterday, he said hes sitting at arround 70 % haste. So what happens to the 9 second delay? yep its more than halfed. And i mean comon, any decent ranger can kite you so easily, its not even funny. Unbreakable/Uncureable snare + few more snares and roots via CA. If you still fail, then im sorry - you should pick another class. There arrow system MIGHT be broken, but i see no reason why they should be fixed for pvp when they do certainly fine ( the good ones tho). Getting auto attacked 3 times for arround 2k in a 4 second fight is certainly not fun. I have not even counted the poison procs + quick shots + any CAs. And all that from range. Ive got my own ranger, and i must say that the ranger is the class with the biggest potential.
I wish all our crap rangers on Venekor would stop crying and actually start learning how to play their class. You know they all were used to hit 3 cas to kill people ( focus aim + 2 combat arts ). And now when its actually a challenge people suck. Funny aint it?
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Thanks for letting us know you are shitty ranger. Focus aim + auto attack is the correct order.
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