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firamas · 02-28-2008, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Pett

Might want to PvP before making a comment about... PvP.

i don't regularly engage in sexual intercourse with hookers, but i feel qualified, as an adult, to make moral statements about that.

i don't regularly wolf down 4500 calories a day of fast food and junk snacks, but i feel qualified to make intelligent statements about the importance of healthy eating and exercise.

i don't regularly smoke a pack and a half a day of cigarettes or drink a case of beer a night, but as a former smoker and college partygoer i feel qualified to make rational statements about the dangers of smoking and/or alcohol abuse.

...see where i'm going with this? just because i don't PvP 3-4 hours a night doesn't mean i'm unqualified to apply logic and reason to my current experience in this game. (p.s. i do actually PvP a decent amount on my alts, i just lost interest in full time PvP on my main and mostly raid with him now)

srsly, get off my nuts dude, as much fun as it is to have random Onyx forum fanbois, it's pretty pathetic of you guys (from the outside looking in) and you'd probably be better served by piecing together an intelligent argument elsewhere about something that actually matters. maybe you and the rest of your jackass guildmates would even stop representing your guild as a bunch of adolescent douchebags and improve Onyx's image with the server. people don't app to your guild because they're looking for a bunch of decent, cool ppl to hang out with and raid/pvp with, they app because they think they'll have a shot at getting a few avatars or mythicals, and they just grit their teeth and deal with all your socially retarded personalities as a matter of course.

gnarkill, gilgame, pett, borias, nightwalker... feel free to respond to this with your usual blahblahblah and rhetoric. i'm stuck here at work for another 4 or 5 hours and could use the entertainment. =)

Nihlathak · 02-28-2008, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by firamas

if you double the length of fights (it'd actually be more than double with a 50% nerf, if you think about it) you DRAMATICALLY increase the chances of another group or player coming in and assisting. do you think it'd be fun to fight another group for 5 minutes, only to have another group or 3 or 4 enemies show up and turn the tide in a matter of seconds?

i dont want PvP to turn into a /shout-for-help fest... "Insurrection group engaged at span!" "Purity group engaged at KP docks!"

yeah, no thanks.

You make a point about group v. group, but as a soloer I'd welcome a 50% damage/heal nerf from my standpoint; rogue vs. rogue combat for example (just because that's what I usually get) is over in a matter of seconds, and to be honest with you that's pretty boring.

But if I was a group player I'd definitely be wary about the potential problems you bring up. It would take a delicately balanced change to lengthen combat duration and give a little more strategy to it, without making "the cavalry" the ultimate weapon in group combat. Quite frankly Sony isn't known for delicate balancing, so if they change something one of us (soloers and groupers that is) is gonna end up pissed.

Demron · 02-28-2008, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Paikis

I'd be quite happy if all heals and damage spells/abilities took a 50% nerf. Basically increase everyone's survivability by effectively doubling their HP. Doing this would lengthen fights sure, but it would also allow debuffs to be worth casting and maybe we can get a small ammount of skill into fights, instead of playing who has the better miracle (Yes Im looking at you Demron)

lol.. I've wanted god abilities, and status merchant charged items out of the PvP game since I started playing it. I've recently started using them to get back at all those who've used them against me.

Ask your Warlocks how powerful Bertoxx is for them, and only the evil side Warlocks can get it. Cry me a river.

Pett · 02-28-2008, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firamas

i don't regularly engage in sexual intercourse with hookers, but i feel qualified, as an adult, to make moral statements about that.

i don't regularly wolf down 4500 calories a day of fast food and junk snacks, but i feel qualified to make intelligent statements about the importance of healthy eating and exercise.

i don't regularly smoke a pack and a half a day of cigarettes or drink a case of beer a night, but as a former smoker and college partygoer i feel qualified to make rational statements about the dangers of smoking and/or alcohol abuse.

...see where i'm going with this? just because i don't PvP 3-4 hours a night doesn't mean i'm unqualified to apply logic and reason to my current experience in this game. (p.s. i do actually PvP a decent amount on my alts, i just lost interest in full time PvP on my main and mostly raid with him now)

srsly, get off my nuts dude, as much fun as it is to have random Onyx forum fanbois, it's pretty pathetic of you guys (from the outside looking in) and you'd probably be better served by piecing together an intelligent argument elsewhere about something that actually matters. maybe you and the rest of your jackass guildmates would even stop representing your guild as a bunch of adolescent douchebags and improve Onyx's image with the server. people don't app to your guild because they're looking for a bunch of decent, cool ppl to hang out with and raid/pvp with, they app because they think they'll have a shot at getting a few avatars or mythicals, and they just grit their teeth and deal with all your socially retarded personalities as a matter of course.

gnarkill, gilgame, pett, borias, nightwalker... feel free to respond to this with your usual blahblahblah and rhetoric. i'm stuck here at work for another 4 or 5 hours and could use the entertainment. =)

That was a lot about nothing, which I didn't read. Post less and PvP more.

firamas · 02-28-2008, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pett

That was a lot about nothing, which I didn't read. Post less and PvP more.

is it cool now to read someone's post and then say you didnt read it to make it look like you're some kind of badass? is that the March 2008 equivalent of "owndowndowndownd"? if it's going to be the latest trend for the next few weeks, lemme know now so i can jump on the bandwagon early plz.

Faabio · 02-28-2008, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by firamas

is it cool now to read someone's post and then say you didnt read it to make it look like you're some kind of badass? is that the March 2008 equivalent of "owndowndowndownd"? if it's going to be the latest trend for the next few weeks, lemme know now so i can jump on the bandwagon early plz.

tl;dr

Zacii · 02-28-2008, 08:04 PM

to the op.QQ

Nil, I like the 5 second rogue v rogue pvp, it makes sense. 2 people without heals attacking with swords, how long is that supposed to last?

Nihlathak · 02-28-2008, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Zacii

to the op.QQ

Nil, I like the 5 second rogue v rogue pvp, it makes sense. 2 people without heals attacking with swords, how long is that supposed to last?

Well yeah I guess, but they have armor on too ya know. I can deal with it the way it is but I mean I wouldn't mind the opportunity to apply a little more finesse and strategy to a fight, as it is most swashies spam buttons and rape faces and that's kinda crap. =(

Demron · 02-28-2008, 10:19 PM

Not only that, rogues should know how to parry, dodge, et cetera well.

Ever read a Drizzt vs Artemis fight?

Nihlathak · 02-28-2008, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Demron

Not only that, rogues should know how to parry, dodge, et cetera well.

Ever read a Drizzt vs Artemis fight?

+10 points for reference IMO, that's EXACTLY what I think when I think of two rogues going at each other. That's why I think the most impressive fights I have are when I and another rogue belt eachother and we have a 10 second jumping parry fest.