LFG

You missed the quote where I corrected myself, and said it was more like selling a silkworm missile to a side in the Middle East. Fuck the region as long as you can get your profit.

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firamas

If only there was this dramatic of a reaction when the PvP gear with reactive control effects was introduced into the game, eh?

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Gaige

Selling is selling, whether its PvE server or PvP. If your guild is capable of killing the mobs needed you can do whatever you want with your spots in raid. Type of server doesn't change anything at all. If anything it makes PvPing a more balanced fight as more ppl will have their mythicals.

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bmg2

I frankly can't see the big deal on PvE servers...the idea that it has to be gained from raid progression is just bullshit if you think about it. If that's the case then only the people in a guild at the time they were working through the tiers and through VP actually "earned" it. Someone who joined later, came along as a friend, etc clearly isn't earning it much more than the person who pays 500p for the opportunity to go along and get his kills. For example, if you were part of Strike as they worked through the tiers and VP and then got your mythical, then grats you earned it...if you came along because they were short a healer, you had friends there, you were a recruit who washed out after the first day, etc...then I can't see how you earned it any more than someone who pays a guild for that privilege. I'm just using the name Strike as an example, insert the name of any other good raid guild in their place.

Then lets bring up the fact that some classes get their mythical after killing an early mob in VP, while others pretty much have to clear the whole place to get theirs.

firamas

No, it's not "really a PvP thread".. it was a legitimate question posed to the entire EQ2 population, with an addendum added in later to inquire about their opinions on whether PVE vs PVP changes the legitimacy. You don't ask a bunch of PvPers if the situation should be judged differently on a PvP server, that's not the intended audience for that question.

Rather than play a shell game with threads in an attempt to save face by preventing the majority of the eq2flames population (who dont read PVP boards) from even seeing it, why not just own up to the fact that you and your guildmates are so butthurt over
a) Kraken beating you to the punch for selling mythicals
b) you and your guild getting pretty much mauled on the forums when you spoke out against this.... outside of the entire Onyx retard circle-jerk forum squad falling over eachother with "YEAH! TAKE THAT!" posts, most people, both PVE and PVPers, have said they either dont care or think it's just fine.

Shit, it's your site and you can run it how you want. We don't pay a fee to post here or read it. You can change to rules to say "no rules -- what I say on any particular day goes" if you want, and the only thing we can do is not come here anymore. Just keep in mind that every time you come off as biased or exhibit any kind of impropriety (either real or perceived), that you're damaging (even in some small way) your reputation and thus the site.

Anyway, back to the rabid Onyx cryfest. =)

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LFG

I disagree. And since every PVE server with an uberguild is selling updates anyway, what was the need for a poll to ask them whether they approved of doing that or not?

Now, Davram is free to post loaded questions with obvious answers anywhere on this site if he wants, but this was a PVP issue that lead to a PVP debate. People from PVE servers suggested this thread be moved to the PVP section, and so I moved it.

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LFG

On a PVE server, people aren't trying to kill you with the Mythicals you sold them. That's one difference.

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Illuminator

But unlike PvE where drama and war are to be avoided at all costs, friends tell me that drama and war are the central appeal of PvP. Am I wrong?

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Gaige

Shouldn't be a concern to Onyx since you all have your mythicals already, so if anything it makes the fight against you balanced, its not as if they're getting something you don't already have.

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