firamas

The RvR for the PVP gear is more than in line. I'd say it's even overpowered in most cases when you look at how little resources and coordination it takes to obtain. Seriously, are we going to be seeing requests for mythical quality PVP set-gear next week? We already had to suffer through the retarded Mythical PVP Epic discussion.

You want the best shit in the game just handed to you because you spent a few days ganking greens who were levelling up in RoK. Laughable. Get the fuck out of here.

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Crone

Bullshit.
The PvP gear should always be on par with Raid obtained gear, simply to allow a different playstyle.
Edit: ppl have to be able to stay competetive with just PvP.

The jewelery is looking good the set pieces are complete and utter garbage (for some classes) and decent for the most part.
What moron thought that 20 health and/or power regen is anything apart from useless?
Now don't tell me that raiding is hardmode they brought in a cockblock for mythicals but before that, gimme a fucking break.

SO in conclusion buff the gear but get rid of raid updates, the ability to leach your gear and for godsakes force people to leave the docks in kp.

cheers

Syous

LOL.

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Amatheon

It should be like it was with version 1.0 vp gear about 10 to 20 percent less. Thats how they modeled the pvp gear in the first place. It should not be better than the new vp gear by any means it should just be brought in line. They made the vp gear now like the old EoF gear with spell focuses and stuff and they should do the same with the pvp gear.

To the guardian that thinks the pvp set is better man have you got no clue what your talking about. The entire guardian pvp set has no parry,defense,riposte,block bonus on any of it. The bonuses on all of it are geared toward doing a little more dps such as +5 double attack or + 5 dps and while that adds some hate there are much better pieces out there from instances for gods sakes. I have to agree with the other person that said thank god your not tanking for my guild.

Oshef

No thanks, I'll take the PvP set +7 double attack, +10 shield effectiveness (wow), and +10% dmg reduc to for my entire group, plz.

I think we've discovered another problem with factions - they don't know how to choose gear. An extra 10 points into 2 stats and +1 attack speed < set effects on PvP gear.

edit: in case it wasn't clear, I'm agreeing with Ower, and adding on to his post.

Amatheon

I was mistaken actually I must have been looking at something else the guardian set is not all that terrible although the 20 health regen and power regen is laughable. The guardian set is not the norm by any means though. I retract my previous statement about Owar and thanks Oshef for pointing that out to me. The pvp set also has +7parry and defense so I was wrong their too. I am a fury so I tend to concentrate on my armor set which in fact is absolutely worthless besides the bp basically.

xunen

I don't think you know what +10 Shield Effectiveness is for, since you said "wow". And instead of the +15 Health and Mana Regeneration the PvP armor has you get stuff like +7 Melee Crit and +5 Attack Speed +75 CA Damage. Next thing, every VP piece has around 50 mitigation more, which is also very nice. And I really don't know why you wan't that 10% physical damage reduction shortbuff for your groupmembers so badly, since they shouldn't receive too much physical damage anyway when a guardian can keep whole groups tauntlocked.

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Oshef

Alright- normally I wouldn't do this for free, Xunen.. but I'll help ya out some.

In PvP - I hardly ever parry, riposte or avoid attacks anymore. There's soo much +slashing gear out there that scouts have hit rates of epic mobs. Shield effectiveness.. block.. is really the only avoidance that works all the time. So yeah.. thats fucking helpful.

I'm also not sure if you've heard of these things called "AE's" - lots of classes have them. Swashies and Berserkers do a TON of physical AE dmg. ALSO - Maybe you haven't checked out the ridiculous PvP jewelry - averted eyes procs every fucking time I taunt a scout.. and when I'm fighting more then one group encounter it becomes basically impossible to keep every scout class on me the entire fight. My short terms + sphere + sentry watch have saved groupmates asses since '93. Have you ever tried to taunt a good ranger before? Fucking impossible.

I'd also like to add on how nice it must be to CHOOSE which piece you want - when you have your tokens. Guess how many players have their VP chest right now? Zero. Zero players. That number won't go up by a LOT anytime in the near future. In a month, MAYBE 4-5 players will have their vp chest.

The way I see it PvP gear is on par with VP gear already. Cry that it's too hard to get if you want, but don't try to call it useless.

xunen

Personally I wouldn't care too much whether my shield has +500 protection or +550 protection compared to the +50 more mitigation EVERY VP piece has. And you're pretending as if the VP armor wouldn't have any set effects at all.

One of those "AE's" basically keeps them tauntlocked and you could just stand there and /afk without even having to taunt. You obviously don't know of the amazing power of the guardian taunt stance in PvP.

Very clever to take the chest piece, the only one really hard to get, as an example to compare with PvP gear. You, sir, are a genius. And if already 4-5 players will have the chest in a month (plus other tons of loot that drops in one month), that's faster than any other PvP only player gets his gear.

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