So the vp armor got upgraded what about pvp gear - Page 4

Narkle · 04-17-2008, 01:34 AM

If SoE didn't want Exile to be a faction they would stop adding cityside events in Haven every LU and Holiday...They have come to terms with Exile and it will never go away

xunen · 04-17-2008, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Soulja

If all you do is pvp then why do you have fabled epic, dispersion gear, masters, thuuga, god abilities, diety cloaks and serveral other great pieces obtain from PVE. If people didn't waste all that time on PVE then you would have all your phat PVP lewtz.

I wish I only could wear some of that insanely overpowered Dispersion gear, oh I wish... And if the PvP gear would be competitive with stuff like fabled epic, dispersion gear, thuuga reward and so on, I wouldn't have to get them through PvE.

xunen · 04-17-2008, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Narkle

If SoE didn't want Exile to be a faction they would stop adding cityside events in Haven every LU and Holiday...They have come to terms with Exile and it will never go away

Because you can do shit in Haven. They are just adding some things so all the "omg Exileds are so poor, no Tokens, no Signets, only VP and Avatarz lootz omgz"-whining stops.

Narkle · 04-17-2008, 01:40 AM

It has been proven time an time again that faction guilds can indeed to anything exile guilds can if they try as hard and dedicate as much as we do...If they didn't want Exile to be a faction they would not have put in guild registry for merely a "passing point" of a 2-3 hour quest..I am not gonna get into either one these arguements again for one billionth time

xunen · 04-17-2008, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Narkle

It has been proven time an time again that faction guilds can indeed to anything exile guilds can if they try as hard and dedicate as much as we do...

Yeah, I don't think that we have to argue about the whole Exile vs faction thing again, because everyone has his own aspects.

But, what you are saying is, that a guild with only half the debuffs, less DPS and some important keyclasses missing can clear VP, do some decent pulls at Avatars et cetera?

On regular PvE servers, guilds gained access to VP in what, one month? And now, after half a year of RoK PvP faction guilds are not even close to T3 on Venekor, and I don't think it's much different on Nagafen.

A player can be as dedicated as he wants to, but he still can never be a Brigand in Qeynos, Templar in Freeport or whatever.

Narkle · 04-17-2008, 01:50 AM

Nagafen has faction in VP...and yes dedication+skill=win

Fooflehag · 04-17-2008, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by xunen

Yeah, I don't think that we have to argue about the whole Exile vs faction thing again, because everyone has his own aspects.

But, what you are saying is, that a guild with only half the debuffs, less DPS and some important keyclasses missing can clear VP, do some decent pulls at Avatars et cetera?

On regular PvE servers, guilds gained access to VP in what, one month? And now, after half a year of RoK PvP faction guilds are not even close to T3 on Venekor, and I don't think it's much different on Nagafen.

A player can be as dedicated as he wants to, but he still can never be a Brigand in Qeynos, Templar in Freeport or whatever.

What faction guild raid 5+ days per week?

Kradun · 04-17-2008, 03:53 AM

Pohodari! They pwn. They are the new and improved Tribunal of Qeynos.

Drytan · 04-17-2008, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Borias

How about no. If you can get VP armor, you can kill (arguably) the 2 hardest mobs in VP, respectfully the 4th and 5th hardest instanced mobs currently in game. Why should someone sitting in a raid all week at KP dock deserve better loot than something off a top caliber mob?

Sure the effects should maybe get another look taken at them. But better than top raid loot? NO. Especially now that trash guilds can get amazing shit out of the first bosses from SoH with very minimal effort.

You have always been such a fucking dumb ass. You are NOT a pvp'er and your right to post on the pvp forum should be revoked immediately.

In short, it has nearly nothing to do with how hard the pvp gear is to obtain. And take note that I am completely passing over the fact that it takes many many many game hours logged in pvp'ing (something u kno nothing about) to obtain. The only thing that does matter, is that players who are not in the powerful guilds, can maintain a competitive edge. Otherwise, the rest of the players who make up the opposition, will no longer want to attempt at beating the overwhelming odds.

I know theirs alot of players like me, who just have too much pride to attempt to join with the rest of the opportunist's. To get in with an already very achieved guild to ride fucking coattails and play follow the leader to get the "easy mode" effect. But with recent changes like this one, and the difficulty of current raid content, other choices are disappearing. It's one thing to help forge the guild and be a part of their success from the start. But it's another thing to be a player like u, just a filler for the open class spots they needed in their guild, a lowly fucking buff bot who literally got handed the equipment necessary to believe that he is a good player.

Ower · 04-17-2008, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by xunen

I don't think you know what +10 Shield Effectiveness is for, since you said "wow". And instead of the +15 Health and Mana Regeneration the PvP armor has you get stuff like +7 Melee Crit and +5 Attack Speed +75 CA Damage. Next thing, every VP piece has around 50 mitigation more, which is also very nice. And I really don't know why you wan't that 10% physical damage reduction shortbuff for your groupmembers so badly, since they shouldn't receive too much physical damage anyway when a guardian can keep whole groups tauntlocked.

This really shows how retarded you are... the mit you lose on the PVP vs PVE gear IS FAR less than 10% physical damage... why would anyone want that?

its even fucking uncontested... since mit scale by lvl... pls get a brain...