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Old 04-17-2008, 06:35 AM  
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This really shows how retarded you are... the mit you lose on the PVP vs PVE gear IS FAR less than 10% physical damage... why would anyone want that? its even fucking uncontested... since mit scale by lvl... pls get a brain...
You pretend as if the 10% physical damage reduction was a buff that is always up. And in a time where every Brawler runs around with Purifier to remove buffs, Pumice Stone and other stuff I wouldn't rely on my buffs (shortbuff in this case even) too much. And the extra mitigation from PvE set is uncontested also.

PS: Why do you end every sentence with three dots? And that smiley was sweet by the way. I can imagine you sitting in front of your PC doing this all the time when you don't have any argues left.
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Old 04-17-2008, 07:34 AM  
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You pretend as if the 10% physical damage reduction was a buff that is always up. And in a time where every Brawler runs around with Purifier to remove buffs, Pumice Stone and other stuff I wouldn't rely on my buffs (shortbuff in this case even) too much. And the extra mitigation from PvE set is uncontested also.

PS: Why do you end every sentence with three dots? And that smiley was sweet by the way. I can imagine you sitting in front of your PC doing this all the time when you don't have any argues left.
Its alot better. I fucking know that the buff isent up all the time. But even on fucking pvp that shit is better than the shity rew from the pve armor. Its better all around. If you cant see that i feel sorry for ya.

And the mit on the armor is not uncontested. Since mit scale by lvl. The higher lvl gear the more mit.

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Old 04-17-2008, 07:58 AM  
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Well, the only ones crying about that VP gear 1.0 was worse (not better) than PvP gear are the Exileds, and those don't really count in a faction based PvP gear related thread anyway. Old VP set and current PvP set are almost identical, besides the more PvP related set effects.
Umm, you misread my post buddy. City folks were bitching about PvP gear not VP gear. The reverse would be ridiculous considering there wasn't a single faction guild getting any VP gear at the time.
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Old 04-17-2008, 08:25 AM  
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This really shows how retarded you are... the mit you lose on the PVP vs PVE gear IS FAR less than 10% physical damage... why would anyone want that? its even fucking uncontested... since mit scale by lvl... pls get a brain...
No, you are, first 10% Shield Effectiveness isnt +10% physical damage and then it doesn't add 10% block, but 10% of you block proctection, which add like 1-2% avoidance.
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Old 04-17-2008, 08:37 AM  
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No, you are, first 10% Shield Effectiveness isnt +10% physical damage and then it doesn't add 10% block, but 10% of you block proctection, which add like 1-2% avoidance.
Where in any of my posts did i say that the 10% Shield Effectiveness is Physical damage? we are talking on the last shit that adds 10%. Havent said a word about the 10% Shield Effectiveness. But that is a nice add on aswell.
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You have always been such a fucking dumb ass. You are NOT a pvp'er and your right to post on the pvp forum should be revoked immediately.
Struck a nerve did I? I never claimed to be a hardcore pvper. Due to my job I really only have time for contested/raid pvp and then some on weekends. I've never pretended any differently.

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In short, it has nearly nothing to do with how hard the pvp gear is to obtain. And take note that I am completely passing over the fact that it takes many many many game hours logged in pvp'ing (something u kno nothing about) to obtain. The only thing that does matter, is that players who are not in the powerful guilds, can maintain a competitive edge. Otherwise, the rest of the players who make up the opposition, will no longer want to attempt at beating the overwhelming odds.
This supposed non pvper with very little pvp time still has 80% of your kills, which I think is pretty good considering how little I actually get to do it. And this does have everything to do with how easy it is to obtain. Players not in powerful guilds should not have as good of gear as players that are. Period. You put in the time, and earn it. Sounds to me like you want the best gear in the game by soloing.(which is what you excel at, because then you don't get a group killed when you run away)

I like how you mention how long it takes to get pvp gear. Compare that please to working(not killing, but learning) on a mob for days on end, with no loot from it, the only thing you get out of it is some progression, and the feeling that it might happen soon. You don't know shit about something taking hours to obtain.

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I know theirs alot of players like me, who just have too much pride to attempt to join with the rest of the opportunist's. To get in with an already very achieved guild to ride fucking coattails and play follow the leader to get the "easy mode" effect. But with recent changes like this one, and the difficulty of current raid content, other choices are disappearing. It's one thing to help forge the guild and be a part of their success from the start. But it's another thing to be a player like u, just a filler for the open class spots they needed in their guild, a lowly fucking buff bot who literally got handed the equipment necessary to believe that he is a good player.
Yep. I'm totally a filler class and a buff bot, just got handed all my stuff. That really wasn't me earning my loot from the first time we killed CMayong through today. So 2 expansions worth isn't enough for you? If you really think I just ride coattails and all that bullshit then you should maybe pick a better target than me. I didn't get to where I am by soloing on KoS islands and in KP and acting like I should get awesome gear for it.

Have you wiped dozens of times all night long on mobs just to try to learn the encounter? Oh that's right, your guild isn't even on the list for tier 1 raid zones. What the fuck do you know about earning anything? I mean christ, even Eternal has cleared some of that.

For the record- The first bosses in Shard of Hate are about as hard as Protectors Realm. And drop better loot than VP. You don't know shit about difficulty vs reward of raid content.

GG. You fail.
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Old 04-17-2008, 10:38 AM  
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The set bonus, as well as the stats on some of the pieces are, quite frankly, shit. Why on earth would I want +25 tracking avoidance? Does that make me live longer in solo PvP or group v group? Does that make me do more damage? Does that make me CC better?

I think there's a Coercer one that is 44 Agi 48 Int, with 20 power regen. Agi means shit all in PvP, the int is meh, and I don't think I've ever gone OOP in a PvP right. I'm still using some level 72 legebday quest piece over a level 80 set piece, somethings got to be wrong.

Some PvP sets are nice, others do need looking at though.
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Old 04-17-2008, 04:56 PM  
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Seriously, be patient, it took them forever to fix the VP gear. I'd imagine PvP gear will take a little time.
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Seriously, be patient, it took them forever to fix the VP gear. I'd imagine PvP gear will take a little time.
Hopefully this is on their radar though. The vp items affected all speople and all servers, whereas the pvp items affect a small amount of people from 3 servers. Its obvious that the majority of folks on said 3 servers agree that the armor is in need of a bump and kudos to the exiles for seeing that even though it only upgrades the folks they will be fighting....good show
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Old 04-18-2008, 01:20 AM  
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Seriously, be patient, it took them forever to fix the VP gear. I'd imagine PvP gear will take a little time.
You pretend as if SOE knew that they have PvP servers where they need to patch updates different from the PvE ones.
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