Proposal: Dramatic tweak to PvP Writ update mechanics - Page 2

firamas · 05-01-2008, 05:12 PM

Well I'm a coder (or at least i have a BS in CompSci, so close enough!) and it's really not that hard. The problem is they dont care about pvp enough, because we dont scream loud enough (there's not enough of us period).

And yes, you're right, there's potential for abuse in almost any system. But what do you do in the above example? Tell the guy to fuck off, sit there motionless for 3 minutes, and if he insists on being a douchebag then live with it. And talk to his guildleader -- not many leaders want members in their guild that will harass other guilds for no reason.

Dankshasta · 05-01-2008, 06:15 PM

I love how this douche bag Firamas (Become) tune changes now that he can get PvP gear. What a fucking retard, tbh.

Phineus · 05-01-2008, 07:33 PM

Dont think you read it dank. He wanted to tweak it to make it more likely your fighting a true 6 on 6 and not an untagged x10.

Zacii · 05-01-2008, 08:35 PM

Just make it all token drops again so people solo imho

Oshef · 05-02-2008, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Zacii

Just make it all token drops again so people solo imho

Says the brig.

firamas · 05-02-2008, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Oshef

Says the brig.

I'm a brigand. I don't prefer to solo. I fully support a ruleset that heavily favors 6v6!! Please don't stereotype me like that... just because the vast majority of rogues or predators are no-talent asshats who rolled their characters solely to engage in stacked 1v1 PvP because that's all their fragile ego can support, doesn't mean every one of us is that way. ;)

And this is why the system is so broken. The devs don't pay enough attention to our corner of the world; and when they DO get players to solicit input, the majority of those who speak up are the irresponsible retards who've contributed to these problems in the first place.

The only way anything will get changed is if a majority of the intelligent players within the community, the ones who actually understand game balance on a large scale, and what makes a game fun for extended periods of time, speak up and contribute their opinions. If all of those players get frustrated and quit, or are too disgruntled to even speak up, then the idiots win. And then we get rulesets that favor either soloing (chest drops) or huge x10 raid zerging (current token system).

I pretty much hate you all.

Denna · 05-08-2008, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Oshef

What if:

Brigand A: Follows around Group A - or Warlock A follows around Group A.

Group A then becomes 75% less likely to get an update.

Plus I'm not at all a coder, but I don't think these changed would be easy to make, and lord knows they won't actually spend TIME on PvP!

Exile, and you can kill Brig A, or Warlock A... Oh wait... Sorry

I like the ideas in the OP. Its really irritating to be getting quest updates, fly into a sok post and have 12 - 15 people standing there ready to prison fuck you. Make there be an incentive that pushes group v group, but also have raids update them, if the target is also tagged raid, you know, because without the slim chance they would get updates from raids, no one would contest anything...

eomnir · 05-08-2008, 01:45 PM

well firamas, i think its a good idea bring some news. but the true is:
this will not fix anything.

people will just split the groups and still sit at KP docks. you will not be raped by people with x4 tag but you still gonna be raped by 24 people.

believe, people are more worry about kill you and not get tokens. special because you guys have vp and mythical and nobody in qeynos like that, of course they wanna tokens, but believe me: they just wanna kill you.

anyway, i think that idea about incentive ONLY group vs group is a crap. soe should do something for everybody. solo, duo, group.

I still think the only thing that could resolve this problem is:
- something like WOW Battlegrounds and/or Instances RvR like the idea in Warhammer.
only free world pvp its not working.

ps: its kind funny how yu talk about good 6vs6 fights. special when everybody in Qeynos fear your gear and mythicals. i really dont know if you guys have or not but my point is: people think you have. and i saw alot messages in channels like this when they wipe a exile or ex-exile group with a x4:
they have crazy gear we

eomnir · 05-08-2008, 02:05 PM

shit, my daughter press my keyboard and i post for mistake.

I re-edit everything still bad english of course

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well firamas, i think its a good idea bring some news. but the true is:
this will not fix anything.

people will just split the groups and still sit at KP docks. you will not be raped by people with x4 tag but you still gonna be raped by 24 people.

believe, people are more worry about kill you and not about get tokens. BELIEVE ME. special because you guys have vp and mythical and nobody in qeynos like that. of course they wanna tokens, but believe me: they just wanna kill you.

its kind funny how you talk about good 6vs6 fights. special when most people in Qeynos fear your gear and mythicals. most people even dont know if you guys have or not but my point is: people think you have. and i saw alot messages in channels like this when they wipe a exile or ex-exile group with a x4:
- they have crazy gear we have numbers.
and if you think about is like war works right? some country have crazy weapons, others have more numbers etc etc etc.

so I dont wanna be rude, just talking, but i dont think your ideas is good to resolve a game problem. i think you are trying just resolve only your problem. you wanna 6vs6 because you guys can come using your mythicals and vp gear and kill people more easy. or people in your group will use regular gear to give a really really fair fight? i dont think so...

anyway, i think that idea about incentive ONLY group vs group is a crap. soe should do something for everybody. solo, duo, group.

I still think the only thing that could resolve this problem is:
- something like WOW Battlegrounds and/or Instances RvR like the idea in Warhammer.

a set gear that come from by doing that instances, zones whatever.
and to make stuffs more fair, I think people should be able to use only mastercraft, maybe legendary and the gear that you will gain by doing that "zones". so, nobody in there will complain about vp, mythical gear.

Zacii · 05-08-2008, 08:30 PM

A. A brigand is a rogue, not a predator.
B. I have grouped and solo, and only prefer the token system because I only solo 99% of the time. I do not solo because of my class, I chose my class because I like to be able to effectively solo.