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Old 05-13-2008, 01:23 PM  
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Pros:
  • Free-for-all PvP environment.
  • Being able to talk to people that you can fight.
Biggest pros, imho. FFA PvP (even with factions) is the way to go, but a game really needs to be designed with that in mind from the ground up.

And being able to duel guildies outside of Haven is both fun and helpful for refining strats.


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  • PvP and PvE are both a bit easier since all classes are available. (Skill and Organization still a factor though since there aresome exiled guild that have not cleared some raid zones and are surpassed bysome city aligned guilds and some exiled guilds which are not very skilled or organized in PvP)
Your quote in parentheses is the key there. I'll say what I've been saying all along: it's the 24 people on the raid that make the difference when it comes to killing hard mobs, not the classes they're playing. You don't "need" a templar or illusionist or brigand to kill anything in this game.

Case in point: Resurrection in exile (even after stealing mythicals), vs Kraken in Freeport currently. We've already outprogressed them (we EASILY 2nd pulled Druushk last raid, and Nexona is going to die soon once we can train up some newer raiders) from a city faction. Then again, I don't think this is a surprise to anyone. ;)


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Cons:
  • Haven NPCs sell items for 50% more than a city.
  • Haven NPCs buy your trash for 50% less than a city.
  • There are no shared bank slots for your characters--even if you have multiple characters in exile.
  • No purchaseable city signets/clickies.
  • Difficult to PvP with people sometimes as AEs do damage to anybody not in your group/raid--this includes guildies.
  • No city housing. Houses can be purchased in Maj'Dul if you want a house (requires faction work + a quest if you want a call to Maj'Dul)
All of that is accurate, but I would say it's also irrelevant in the big picture. The only exceptions being possibly 2 of the signets (AE avd and AE res), but we've been raiding in FP so far without them and I don't think we'll need them. Doesn't mean we won't use em to make life easier, but it's very doable without them. ;)

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  • No PvP items--it doesnt matter if you purchased them prior to exiling, exiles can not use them.
Probably one of the bigger drawbacks to exiling. PvP gear is mindblowingly easy to get compared to raid gear, and it's almost exactly on par. Many pieces of PvP gear (the jewelry in particular) absolutely blow away raid quality fabled gear. PvP gear with reactive control effects like fear/detarget are THE biggest game-changing effects out there.



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  • Should you ever want to return to a city ever again you will lose every lvl 50+ability you have. (Obviously this means Master 1's as well)
Eh, go beat on some rocks for awhile. Moving back to a city is a big enough decision that you should have no problem spending some plat or some time farming to get your AD3's back!


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In conclusion: City life is easy life. Exiled life is harder (but i suppose it should be since we're exiled). If you plan on going exile make sure you have a guild ready to welcome you or else your life could be a pain in the ass.
Having seen it from both sides of the fence now, I would say that the only way cities really have it easier is in how effortless it is to obtain powerful PvP gear compared to raiding. I can argue that virtually every "negative" about being in exile is essentially irrelevant to a hardcore player.

But yes, make sure you have friends waiting for you in exile (or coming with you), or it could be painful. =)
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Old 05-13-2008, 01:34 PM  
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Did you really have to break down Broncas' entire post?

The person got his answer, he didn't need you to dissect every little bit of it and add useless information to it.
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Basically I have been playing on Oasis for a long time now, and I like to run aroung and gank people while they are playing or harvesting by myself, it really makes me happy to kill them and loot their stuffz.

Any other suggestions for a new person getting into the pvp scene?
You sound like a typical ganker looking for their quick pvp kill and if you dont already have one I'd suggest a scout. Probably a predator (Ranger/Assassin) or rogue (Swashbuckler/Brigand) more so than a bard (Dirge/Troubador). Track, stealth, evac, and pretty ridiculous burst dps gives scouts a bunch of huge advantages in terms of play in terms of just class vs class.


As you level up there will be tons of scouts because most people are looking for easy to play, rather independant, strong solo, classes in pvp as well.

Should you ever want to level up though towards more the end game level, you'll be random scout #94832804.02 Bravo Foxtrot and just another face in a sea of scouts.
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Old 05-13-2008, 06:08 PM  
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Old 05-13-2008, 07:01 PM  
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Hey Become. Guardian Mythical.
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Yeah, I had already rolled a Ranger, I have always thought they would be fun to play. I have an 80 Inquis on a PVE server that is in a VP raid guild, so I got my fill for that when I want it. I roll with some friends every once in a while, but for the most part, I laugh my ass off when I see a Freep harvesting and I plant some arrows in his ass and take his loots by myself. Good Times.
Thanks for the hella info, I think I will exile with my friends just so I can put arrows in anyones ass rather than just Freeps. Refining strat with guildies will be nice too, never played a Ranger before or PVP, so practice is huge.
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If you exile at a lower level then PvP ranges in zone no longer apply to you, meaning level 80s can attack you despite you being a level 12, 38, 70, whatever.
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Hey Zaci. What about it?
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