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Old 05-16-2008, 03:23 PM  
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This is primarily aimed at scouts who have the ability to kill other classes (especially mages) in a few seconds. These problems affect grp vs. grp but more so solo/small grp pvp.

Why... do the immunity potions last so long, 10 seconds? and why can you cast the potions even when stunned and/or stifled, this doesn't make sense and just makes pvp trivial imo (especially for scouts).

For example, casting freedom of mind potion gives you 10 seconds of immunity versus stun and stifle, which gives the caster more than enough time to negate the primal abilities of several classes, but especially enchanters. Enchanters also have to put up with immunity to these effects which only doubles the error against them.

The same is true for other potions e.g. freedom of action, while this and mind cannot be cast simulateneously, they grant the user plenty of time to kill any foe before they can stun/stifle.

I realise there is a re-cast of 15 minues on these potions, but unless you are sitting at the dox in KP, the chances of getting another fight solo are remote (and i play on nagafen). As a scout my potions are up almost every fight and I never back down personally.

It would be my recommendation to not allow casting of potions while stunned/stifled and to reduce the duration of such potions to ~1 second. Relying on your grp members for cures should be applicable (you should also be able to use cures on your allies imo).

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Old 05-16-2008, 04:46 PM  
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if its a real fight i just use the signets anyway
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Old 05-16-2008, 04:54 PM  
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why? because this game wasn't intended for PvP. /gasp
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Old 05-16-2008, 05:54 PM  
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If you can't use a signet or potion, would enchanters ever lose in a 1-1 except in extremely warped situations?
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Old 05-16-2008, 06:38 PM  
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If you can't use a signet or potion, would enchanters ever lose in a 1-1 except in extremely warped situations?
You could say the same thing about other classes too. Brigands, for one. If someone couldn't break my stunlock, they're dead. Period. 2 sec stun to interrupt your openers--force face root for 6 sec--tear away your mitigation--burst DPS right into your backside with no way to break away... dead.

Is that fair? =)
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Old 05-16-2008, 06:55 PM  
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Except that you aren't Brokensword, so it would probably take you about a minute and a half.
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Old 05-16-2008, 07:50 PM  
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That was dumb. Just because he beat cleveland 9 for 9 doesnt mean he sucks as bad as cleveland.
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Old 05-16-2008, 08:01 PM  
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Cleveland was horrible too though, they were both horrible.
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Old 05-16-2008, 11:16 PM  
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daimyo, assassin.
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Old 05-17-2008, 05:38 PM  
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Im not an assassin... besides what the hell has that got to do with anything?

I'm suggesting we have potions (and signets/god powers) which do not negate a lot of abilities. The fights just boils down to simple melee, who has more ppl and button mashing..

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