New fame system is a start but...

Elucard · 02-24-2009, 03:58 AM

I think SOE is on to something with their new fame system. I'm not saying their new system is the best way to go. But the fact that they're changing it is an acknowledgment that it's flawed.

The pvp system should take more into consideration than which players lived in pvp and which players died.

There are already some rules in effect, such as:
Start a fight with a guy who has less than 50% HP and you get no fame
Start a fight with a grey-con and you get no fame

Rules like that are good but if you people actually wanted the title system to give some indication of "skill" then there needs to be more rules. Because face it, it takes 0 skill for a group of 6 to kill 1 necro. Yet so many of you get your titles by doing just that. And then you complain that this new system doesn't grant you the prestige that you earned.

So in short; if you folks actually want the title/fame system to be a declaration of your "skill" then tell SOE to implement rules like this:

1. The amount of fame given is based on how many jackasses you have in your group compared to the player you kill. So for examples:

Example 1)
Your group of 5 rolls a solo player.
You get very little fame

Example 2)
Your group of 6 rolls a group of 4
You get decent amount of fame

Example 3)
Your group of 2 kills group of 3
You get increased fame

Get it? So when you're flying around at night with your pvp group of 6, jumping off the bird to stop and kill every soloer you see, so that in the morning when your other friends get online you can brag about your stupid title, you'll be fuckered.

Now the complain will be said: But then nobody will group for pvp? Sure they will, but you'll be rewarded based on your "skill" and based on the challenge of the kills you make. You do want your title to be an indication of your uber skills, right? I mean thats what you said.

Okay Rule #2, and I'm only posting this rule idea for all the fucktards who play an SK, use only HT, and claim they're skilled.

Rule 2:
SOE should keep a few tiers of classes. Based on how bad they fuck up balance, these tiers can change.

So for example, classes that are considered by all to be pretty much OP, would be in T1. Classes that are pretty well balanced would be T2. And classes in T3 would be the ones that everyone laughs at. Like necros.

When fame is dolled out, you would be awarded fame based on how shitty or how op of a class you were playing compared to the guy you slaughtered.

So say I'm playing a T1 class and I kill three T3 classes. It took no skill to kill them because I'm OP and I fucking know it. Then I go and I kill one T1 class. Well I think the system should say that I get about the same amount of fame for killing the three T3's as I did the one T1.

Because plain and simple; it takes skill to succeed at a shitty class. How many necros do you see out there pwning newbs? Not many. Only the good ones (or the ones in groups of 6).

And on the other hand, it takes no skill to play other classes. Say an sk for example. We all know they're rigged right now. So how can an SK go and say "my title expresses my uber skills" when all it really expresses is the fact that SOE screwed up class balance and you've seen your advantage?

I can see disagreeing with Rule #2 cause whos going to decide which classes are which tiers? Right? (I'll decide if you want me to ;)

But if you disagree with rule #1, you had better have a damn good reason. Otherwise you're in danger of being one of the stupid people I mentioned previously. And trust me, there are a lot of you out there.

Elucard · 02-24-2009, 03:59 AM

Oh and yea my post is long. And I assume most people will only read part of it before they reply. But try not to make yourself look stupid by saying something that I already covered.

Edit:
Here's a great post on the offical forums:
http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/p...opic_id=444028

This guy asks "whats a good class" and half the peopel reply "any class can be good if they're well played".

So if thats true, it proves the point that some classes take skill. So why not build in rules that take the reality of the situation into effect.

Zacii · 02-24-2009, 09:24 AM

stfu noob way to apologize for a long pointless post with a long pointless post

paint your trailer walls grey and red plz<3

Nubi · 02-24-2009, 09:39 AM

drunk posts ftl
post count ftw

Pink Poodle · 02-24-2009, 10:37 AM

Yeah Aeralik and... that other woman, plz speak to the goddamn fanbase and stop looting all the rice krispie treats that you guys get for free. They really should respond to shit FFS.

Elucard · 02-24-2009, 02:06 PM

Wow, what well thought out replies.

It's funny how all you do is talk shit but cant actually say why the idea is bad. Oh thats right, because you don't want rules in place that let everyone know how shitty you are in pvp.

But I knew those would be the responses I got simply because there are so many idiots who dont actually want anybody to know how bad they suck.

If you thought you were good at pvp you would totally want what I suggested. But I guess we all know how you really feel about yourselves, now dont we?

spyderbite · 02-24-2009, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pink Poodle

Yeah Aeralik and... that other woman, plz speak to the goddamn fanbase and stop looting all the rice krispie treats that you guys get for free. They really should respond to shit FFS.

Why? Just setup alerts of new developer posts to go to your email. Then forward your emails to your Mom's Blackberry Pearl. She can yell down the steps when something is updated.

Your F5 button will thank you.

Ajjantis · 02-24-2009, 03:28 PM

Spyderbite what are you doing in the pvp section? you dont pvp sir.

Pink Poodle · 02-24-2009, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spyderbite

Why? Just setup alerts of new developer posts to go to your email. Then forward your emails to your Mom's Blackberry Pearl. She can yell down the steps when something is updated.

Your F5 button will thank you.

They should communicate more about the fame system tbh. Honestly we need more information and etc. worked in. Otherwise the concept looks decent. I'm not being all "BOO HISS FUCK U SOE VIDYOGAEEEM" 24/7 man :/

Also lol my mom doesn't have a blackberry

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elucard

Wow, what well thought out replies.

It's funny how all you do is talk shit but cant actually say why the idea is bad. Oh thats right, because you don't want rules in place that let everyone know how shitty you are in pvp.

But I knew those would be the responses I got simply because there are so many idiots who dont actually want anybody to know how bad they suck.

If you thought you were good at pvp you would totally want what I suggested. But I guess we all know how you really feel about yourselves, now dont we?

Because of the people going "BAWWWWW EASYMODE," and maybe just a tiny penalty can be worked in to shut them up. I'm all for offending the butthurt PVPers with titles being their main accomplishment in life but they've [SOE] got to be careful ever since the SWG fiasco. (apparently even something like this would be an NGE for some people) You know?

also I know I suck at PVP, lol. It's like... what I'm known for.

Zacii · 02-25-2009, 08:29 AM

The idea about differing rewards regarding group size is good on paper, but so easily exploitable by breaking off and taking fame from same dude 2-3 times it becomes unstable and shit, and the whole idea of giving a necro more fame is bad because it doesnt help them, it just gives them more fame for the very few times they win solo, and group based that more fame for being a tier three class is ridiculous.

So please, my above post holds true and is not unwarranted, I just did not go into detail abot why you need to kill yourself.