Why are Coercers so broken in PvP? - Page 3

Dreww · 07-14-2009, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Milambers

If Coercers are OP then why do I very rarely lose to one on Qtoon? Oh yea, its because when you know how to kill one they go down in 2 seconds.

And Dank, troubs have it easy against Coercers. Very easy.

same with me on Drewbie, theres not a coercer in my tier that i cant beat lol and theres a lot in t5/t6

Ratface · 07-14-2009, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Pudaan

As far as I know coercers dont have a daze which makes them way easier then illys. I still get killed by noob coercers every now and then (mostly when i get lock targeted to their pets, the less people that know how to do this the better imo) but its nothing to rage about, its like dying to an SK after a 4k death touch.

If it makes you rage, dont solo.

Coercers have an encounter daze (as opposed to single target for Illusionist) iirc.

But most chanters are terrible.

Esio · 07-14-2009, 01:20 PM

when you are mez a coercer keeping you rooted so click on stiffle signet all the time so the first hit you will be immune to stiffle you think he keeping you mez but you are stiffled and rooted its like a mez, so stiffle him and cure your root, im a Troubador and rarely loose against a coercer, only 1 coercer have killed me and i was ungeared. You can use 2 kind of immune stiffle.

Milambers · 07-14-2009, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dankshasta

That hurt, but you know I quit using so many consumables on my Fury, and maybe I do just need to get back into using more consumables. I've only PvPed a couple hundred kills too since coming back, so I guess I need to practice alittle more. Dudos is still pretty far off though, the Troub mez and debuff stack is nothing similiar.

Wasn't directed at you personally but yea, even simple things like cure potions 99% of players don't use can make a huge difference if you know when to and what to use them for.

Dreww · 07-14-2009, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pudaan

As far as I know coercers dont have a daze which makes them way easier then illys. I still get killed by noob coercers every now and then (mostly when i get lock targeted to their pets, the less people that know how to do this the better imo) but its nothing to rage about, its like dying to an SK after a 4k death touch.

If it makes you rage, dont solo.

we do have a daze pudaan pie. 1 daze 3 stuns 2 mes's 1 stifle 1 fear 1 root

Pudaan · 07-14-2009, 07:36 PM

oh, well i guess 99.9% of coercers on nagafen suck harder then i imagined.

Dankshasta · 07-15-2009, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Esio

when you are mez a coercer keeping you rooted so click on stiffle signet all the time so the first hit you will be immune to stiffle you think he keeping you mez but you are stiffled and rooted its like a mez, so stiffle him and cure your root, im a Troubador and rarely loose against a coercer, only 1 coercer have killed me and i was ungeared. You can use 2 kind of immune stiffle.

STFU I know when I'n stifled and when I'm mezzed, LoL.Who the fuck would take PvP advice from you anyway? you're horrible

gankednshanked · 07-15-2009, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dankshasta

They do? Please stop teh nonsense. Troubs can't stack debuffs for their damage type, they cant stack reactives, and nobody dies the instant the mez breaks. You know this, in fact the two aren't even close, I don't get your post. They both have mez, and then the similarities end.

UVE NEVER SEEN ME PVP CLRLY

gankednshanked · 07-15-2009, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dankshasta

That hurt, but you know I quit using so many consumables on my Fury, and maybe I do just need to get back into using more consumables. I've only PvPed a couple hundred kills too since coming back, so I guess I need to practice alittle more. Dudos is still pretty far off though, the Troub mez and debuff stack is nothing similiar.

while i will agree to the non reactive debuff statement, we dont really need it.

if you get the coercer mezzed b4 they mezz you, which should be no problem since you have track, then they can do 1 of 2 things, sit there for 7-8 seconds while you debuff then mezz u so both of ur mezzes break at the same time or he can mezz you right after u mezz him and his will break first ( troub has longest mezz ).

If you spec into sonic interference, it is godlike in pvp, especially against enchanters. although it has a high resistability, reducing the chanters control effects by 30% ( mezz = 12-13 seconds, stun = 3-4, stifle = 3-4 ), gives the coercer a hard time.

Say you get the first mezz, and he mezzes u right after, once his mezz breaks, snare spell rebuff sonic interference devigorating something ( dont remember name STR/AGI ) and then temp stifle and blow him up.

now say he mezzes u 1-2 seconds after ur mezz is going to expire, when ur mezz breaks on him, use a freedom of mind potion, stifle debuff etc. and peace out, get some range on him while usin shrill etc. might be a littler tougher but u should be fine...

it takes practice as i will admit chanters are some of the hardest classes, if not the hardest.
but i hear more complaints about troubs than coercers tbh.

Pudaan · 07-15-2009, 04:31 AM

honestly after playing a troub for 3 days id say my charm and evac strat has worked the best