T8 PvP-the new level locked PvP

Going · 09-25-2009, 09:22 PM

So with basically anyone able to get PvP gear now, whatever master and other fab items at will, it looks like T8 is meant to be the real level lock. No skill needed to get anything, 30 writs on random players and you get the chest or legs, thats 3 hours per piece.

It looks to me like sony just said fuck it all, make it so everyone can have a twinked out toon. You can now take a toon, on a new account, even a total noob, and within a couple of weeks have a nicely geared toon-don't even need plat anymore. The only disparity now will be AA~ and that can be made up for pretty quick too.

I really hope this kicks up the interest in the game because fucks sake I wasted a lot of time raiding for gear that just got made second rate.

Edit: Punctuation

Dreww · 09-25-2009, 10:23 PM

my lvl 54 assassin has an avatar belt, Noone else on the server can say that.

Revant · 09-26-2009, 04:34 AM

It's killed pvp in one way, but made it better in others.
I don't like the fact that it's this easy to get the gear now, mainly because of the fact that I spent hours on end pvping to get the pieces I already had before the expansion. On the other hand like the OP said, it does encourage new players to be competitive.

Hopefully when the zerg bullshit stops in the next couple weeks, we will start to see some good battles again. Sadly though, I think the days of people being able to take on 3 or 4 people at once are behind us, even if they were better skilled, because this gear on everyone is going to make people a shitload harder to burn down regardless

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As long as it gets more people playing though, it's a good thing.

Oh... and another thing, all this gear will be obsolete in a few months with the next expansion coming out anyway, so I think that's why they did it. Allow everyone to get some good, fabled gear so they feel good about themselves and keep playing when the new expansion hits.

Nikitah · 09-26-2009, 07:30 AM

Since GU53, The population of EQ2 has risen, by alot. Even in venekor, we're seeing a KP2, which you wouldn't norm.. NEVER see.

Venekors populaton has risen to a point at which PVP is possible again, not to a healthy state, but still possible, probably because Aion was total shit, but hey, in some ways, i say GU53 has helped.

Although i do agree with the amount care-bearingness the game is being put through.

kymbo · 09-26-2009, 11:13 AM

It's a great change overall. It gives more purpose to the PVP server. A lot of people left or stopped PVPing because in T8 it was pointless before for the average player to even attempt. It was almost like a 20 level gap in perspective. Now it's changed. Instead of small number of people who previously worked there ass off controlling the PVP, now a large number can come together and actually participate.

The average player also has a fulltime job and/or family. The older system did not cater to these people at all. People stopped PVPing, and focused on other part time stuff (questing, occasional pvp, crafting, etc) The older system catered to people who were unemployeed, high school students, or part time college coasters. I'm pretty sure these are going to be the people who are most disgruntled with the change. However, these are also the people who likely bring in the least revenue to SOE.

Something to keep in mind, too

Dreww · 09-26-2009, 11:54 AM

They made this game way too easy, because all of you cry babies who couldnt handle getting your ass pounded by ppl in beter gear.

kymbo · 09-26-2009, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dreww

They made this game way too easy, because all of you cry babies who couldnt handle getting your ass pounded by ppl in beter gear.

Nobody complained so much, the average player just didn't PVP or they quit. Those who stayed ran quests T8 and avoided areas where PVP happened since it wasn't even remotely possible without dedicating 20+ hours per week. And people who had tons of spare time ran around taking apart 80's in MC armor getting tones of writ updates. It's like a 70 running around killing level 50's (yes, it's easily a 20 level gap btw MC gear and PVP gear + myth), then complaining about the fact that the 50's are now allowed to level (with less grind) up to 70 but arn't FORCED to stay at 50. Sure, you spent a lot of time getting where you did, but you clearly had the time to blow. Most people don't. The crit mit is NEEDED for the average player, or else they would've needed to NERF pvp damage but that seems less rewarding.

The game needs to cater to the average person. It was a pvp server where the average person couldn't PVP on endgame. You don't see a problem there?

If they gave away MYTHs, that would be way overboard. This was needed. Maybe they made it a little too easy, but i'm sure they are getting people geared up for the new expansion anyways.

Dreww · 09-26-2009, 01:25 PM

you bascially prooved my point...So everyone deserves a trophy now? They made the game way too easy, its all about putting time in and actually earning PVP gear, now with the writs being as simplistic as possible its not hard at all to get pvp gear.

kymbo · 09-26-2009, 02:01 PM

It's easy, no doubt. A little too easy. You have a point there. But getting everyone geared up might not be a bad thing, especially if they are releasing some new kickass gear. So SOE decided to give some guns to some indians, that doesn't mean they're going to win. But It'll definitely stir up some shit, and there's nothing wrong with a little more target practice.

Toxicz · 09-26-2009, 02:38 PM

Only thing this update did was give shitty players top end gear for nothing. The only thing that will change over there next few weeks is more than half of the people you've never seen before this update will get there gear and then go back into hiding, and after there all gone, the normal zerg crew will be at TG instead of the dock. pvp won't change it just got moved to a different place.