Mirdo

Valid points but if they are actually working on our autoattack mechanics I'm guessing it's a ground up rework. If that is the case then there's no way they'll look at things like chimes until the rework is live and been tested. Historically, the affects of mechanics changes on Ranger DPS seem to have been difficult for them to predict.

We can only hope that if they get base mechanics working correctly our DPS becomes more predictable for them allowong procs and other spell affects to be added.

Hexus

Do not mistake me as saying that I believe Chime of Blades isn't working properly, but I do believe we get the haste bonus from it, and not the proc on attacks.

-Hexus-

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Dantel

We do get the haste, however so does everone else. Dirges already give +ranged with their buffs but somehow they don't grant the proc.

And we get fucked by having people like Aeridick as a dev heh.

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Safana

Then also ranged attacks have to trigger reactive procs that now say: *if target is hit by a melee weapon* imho, i think thats a benefit we have atm

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Cochy

I agree 100%, while you may not get some procs off of your bow you don't have to deal with 1/2 the shit melees have to deal with in regards to damage shields. I have always felt that until we get a bow that procs off melee you shouldn't get a weapon that procs off ranged. (In regards to Azleya's Killij comment.)

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Azleya

I would be perfectly fine with making damage shields apply off bow attacks more consistently IF beneficial procs were also fixed to work consistently off bow. When I mentioned the Kilij, I was just giving an example of a double standard people often seem to set for rangers, favoring fixes that nerf the class while resisting those that favor it, but I would actually favor all out cross-proccing between melee and bow (including adornments), and toning many down weapon procs if necessary to compensate. This weapon proc logic is much less arbitrary. The argument for not having melee weapons proc off bow (or bows off melee weapons) has traditionally been that you aren't "shooting your sword", but neither are you shooting/swinging your earring or cloak or whatever that has a damage proc, so basically the devs are arbitrarily stating that while most gear procs are enhancements to the character, weapon procs are enhancements to the weapon only. Furthermore, mage/priest weapon procs, on the other hand, are arbitrarily considered enhancements to the character, as they trigger off spells, not attacks with the weapon. So basically, an arbitrary exception to the rule is made for melee-class weapons and bows...wtf? I mean how the fuck can this be considered consistent proc logic?

Crychtonn - Bylar

That's all good and they fixed it to work that way with the exception that it looks like a few new weapons got coded wrong. And now it's time to spend the time to fix all the armor and jewelry that's broken. And they can start with a piece that's been broken significantly longer then the kilji was. It's name would be Str Imbued Rings!

I bet there are a shit ton of rangers that love to be able to just drop a few plat on one instead of having to try and get lucky with a BotH. Shit the ring has a better proc anyways. I'd drop howler in a sec if I could use one and replace it with something better.

So how about you rally up all your assassins and other melee and start petitioning to get that fixed with the same vigor that was used to fix the bugged Kilji and T5 Sai's

Drodin

Was thinking about this, the fact that its chimes of blades and our arrows aren't exactly typical blades, maybe it would be best to try and get precision of the maestro to proc on ranged attacks as well as spells if their goofy logic is why COB isnt working for us now.

So, forget COB, go go POTM!

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Azleya

Wow, I was wondering how long it would take for someone to present this retarded argument.

CoB = Melee-class buff, so it should proc off bow, too, bottom line. Fuck so-called "realism". This is a game. Do what makes sense from a mechanics balance and consistency perspective. Things that trigger off melee also triggering off bow = mechanics consistency. Some things triggering off melee only, some off melee/bow, and some off bow/spell = huge fucking clusterfuck.

Also, if you go with precision proccing off bow instead of CoB, you're now forcing the ranger into a mage group (lacking troub epic) for his short-duration bard damage proc, but that spot in the mage group is not best-suited to a ranger, nor is the ranger best-suited to that group.

Furthermore, if we are going to use the retarded 'realism' argument, why the fuck do crushing weapons proc CoB?

Please, no more arguments that arrows shouldn't proc CoB because they aren't blades. It's these kinds of dumbass arbitrary restrictions that make me want to eat kittens or something.

Drodin

chill, I wasn't 100% serious and I said it was their goofy logic not mine.

but POTM is > COB dmg wise (by quite a lot), so it would be nice and better than what we got, an upgrade is an upgrade so fuck your consistency imo if we get an extra proc somewhere its better than now. and I personally have a troub more than a dirge so gtfo our setup bitch. yeah its not perfect, big whoop, wanna fight about it?

Talking about inconsistency, if POTM were to proc of ranged and spells, then a ranger would be best suited for that group over the other scouts, and I am thinking with mythicals in mind too.
This wouldnt be forcing anyone anywhere, if you wanna think like that we are forced into an illusionist, dirge, inquis, zerker, mystic group for thier buffs since they also benefit us. So, no its not a requirement to get a troub, but it adds more than what there is currently if you happen to be there already.

bottom line, yea I think COB should proc on ranged
if it cant, then go for POTM. something is better than nothing, and the blades aspect was all I could think of for why SOE doesn't let it proc on ranged, NOT why I agree with it.

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