Kryntyl

He said that your guilds ranger sucked, judging by his parses.

He said nothing about there not being an arrow mechanics issue.

Ranja

Sorry man I am going to have to agree with everyone else here. Your ranger just sucks. Looking at his gear he has not idea how to itemize himself. He needs to start there if he is going to get any better.

Yes rangers have an arrow mechanic working against them but that only means it gimps them compared to t1 dps classes (sorcs wizzies assassins etc). If he is getting beat by a bard, he sucks. Get a new ranger or show him a real ranger parse to shake him up a little.

Nesse

While you might not be lookin for asshat responses, you're certainly going to get plenty of them. If you havent felt like you've gotten any yet, let me be the first to start. Cause ya.. Im just that way.

#1. Rangers havent been getting "the Shaft" for the last 2 years. If you think that your particular rangers have sucked for the last two years, thats on you. Most REAL raiding rangers, struggled for awhile in KoS, excelled in EoF, and are struggling again in RoK. That doesnt mean however that we suck. It just means we arent able to parse were other DPS only classes are. We do however manage to hold our own dispite the arrow mechanics problems.

#2. Stop being so god damned lazy. There are two.. thats 2 perfectly good tools here on this site for you to use. If you want to see what a Dev has to say, Try the EQ2Flames Tracker up top, or check the Dev Tracker section of EQ2Flames. One has posts from Devs on Flames, while the other is posts from the Devs on the offical forums. Take your pick. Or ask one of your rangers. If they dont know.. try replacing them.

#3. While I understand the importance of Min/Maxing a raid, what I dont get, is why you feel the need to come here, as if you're a high end, top notch raiding guild, that feels the need to dump your current ranger(s) off your raid roster in order to further your progression. If you arent happy with your rangers DPS, thats something you should be taking up with him or her. Honestly, I cant believe that you're having problems with it now. Truth be told, if your ranger isnt performing well enough to maintain a spot now, how the hell were they doing it before RoK? Worst case, their DPS shouldnt have fallen off, but more or less "flat lined".

Anyways, your ranger(s) shouldnt be holding you back. If they are, thats something you need to talk to them about. Not coming here asking about fixes.

However, to answer your question. LU44 I believe should bring a revised arrow mechanic. So yes, theres a fix to the situation, but again... if they suck now, I dont see this helping them all that much. And as I already said, if your current rangers are unaware of this, then its time you found some that want to know all there is to know about the class.

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Solvantis

Dude, seriously? your ranger is THAT bad? wtf? come on now... want me to show ya how a ranger parses? im on the same server and ill PWN your rangers FACE! and any other raider ya got.....

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Dantel

2 Rangers in a raid force is 2 too many, for maximum optimization heh.

However, 1 should suffice, dump one, pick up..uh...anyone else.

2 Brigands in one group seems shitty, but I can't find an argument against it so someone else can deal with that. I do however think Monk in that group is a complete waste of time. You really need to mix up what you have there.

The haste in the group is ridiculous, Fanat, CoB, Illy, that is of course assuming your Inquis doesn't suck to the point of not casting Fanat. Monks self haste, they don't need help, but could probably use some +dps. I'd rather have the Zerker in the place of the Monk to balance things out, or even an Assassin.

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Canul

It is entirely possible that your rangers have heard that they are gimped and being helpless about it. I think you can gather from some of the other responses that that is not what our community feels is a suitable response to the problem.

In my opinion, they would benefit from two things. Firstly, they would benefit from having a better ranger in the raid to give them a benchmark (does not have to be all the time, but once or twice should tell them that they are seriously lacking). They should take more pride in what they do and what their role is, and maybe that would make them take notice.

What else have you raided with these guys in the last tier? I am just tryign to ascertain why they may not be geared well to begin with.

And, yes. Send them here.

I would just like to add that I appreciate that you want to help them out, and that is admirable. If it is not within their ability to turn things around, then you should not feel badly for benching them for performing below T3 DPS.

That group setup you posted is better then most rangers get, on the whole.

Safana

Cool excuse for a sucking ranger... class and mechanics are broken... lol

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Pantheron

Tell your truba to stop JCing the ranger for him to use SoA!

We are doing T7 DPS in T8...we arent doing worse than before.

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Safana

I'm still Top3 in important fights, so personally don't give a shit for some fucking high trash parse of other classes.

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