Doopsy

I'm lvl 68, so have 50 Predator points to spend. I"m now speced down Agi and Int to the end. Question: does anybody recommend Sta over Int for PvP?

The reason why I ask is I'm tired of getting run over by Brigands (75% of the freeps I see), Assasins (15% of the freeps I see) and Bruisers (9% of the freeps I see). In other words, I cannot for the life of me keep melee classes off of me, no matter how hard I try to snare, root, freedom potions, evade, root, kite, blah blah blah. Once they get to me, i'm lucky if I live 3 seconds.

Anyone use the STA line for solo pvp? Is the survivability increase worth the loss of dps?

I already know I suck and all that, so no need to remind me. Constructive comments, instruction and /hugs are appreciated though.

Dantel

Do you people ever look at the 189723712312 where should my AA's go?

Or better yet, look at all of the abilities on your AA tree's and maybe, oh I don't know, decide for yourself?

Yes, sometimes you can justify the STA line in PvP. However, if you do your job correctly, you can dps them down faster and thus increase survivability. When in doubt, just test it for a while. Try out the STA line and if it sucks for you, swap back and figure out other ways to do what you're trying to do.

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Lewz

This is why we can't take you anywhere nice!

Doopsy

A couple of thoughts:

1. I did a search and there was nothing resembling a post like mine. There are 189723712312 posts about AAs, none specifically about PvP and how best to deal with melee classes, and the trade-offs of STA v. INT speccing with that in mind.

2. This is a forum, and the idea here is to discuss things, rather than for people to "figure it out yourself" then come here and proclaim their knowledge to others who presumably figured it out themselves as well.

3. I don't find PvP speccing as easy as "Let me change this up and go fight 15 Brigands one on one and see if I have a better success rate." Every PvP fight is different and every opponent different. I don't think you get a feel for a spec in PvP unless you use it for a while and work with it. I was hoping to gain insight from any that already use the STA line in PvP and have had success with it.

4. I presume Dantel plays another ranger on a pvp server somewhere, and is not just trolling my post and condescending for the hell of it. I'm anxious to hear the specific Kithicor server insight on PvPing solo against Brigands. I'm sure he's a great ranger, and knows his class, but I'm not looking for an ACT parse spreadsheet showing the various AA specs that are best for RoK raiding rangers. There's 189723712312 posts on that already.

Anyway... Unless I am somehow breaking a rule with this thread, any insight from PvP rangers is appreciated...

Dantel

Yes, there are threads that deal with this, please don't make me go find them and link them here because that is just way too much work and I'm like...lazy.

The only reason I said figure it out for yourself is because honestly, it's not that hard. Try some things out, as I have said, and if they aren't working for you try other things. This insight does work despite your horrible example.

Also, you're fairly quick to presume that because Kithicor is the server I have listed that I've never played in a PvP server, or as a Ranger in one for that matter. Yes I have to both of those questions, and the logic remains the same.

You're going to find that people are split down the middle with the STA versus anything else lines, so I'll make this easier since most of those people suck. Spec for maximum DPS. It doesn't matter what server you're on be it PVE or PVP, spec for DPS, because that is what this fucking class was designed to do. You're not playing an Inquis that COULD dps, you're not playing a Swash that COULD tank, you're playing a Ranger that DOES dps, so don't try to mess with the formula.

Play to your strengths is what I was trying to tell you with the figure the shit out. But if you're too goddamn fucking stupid to figure that out, spec for STA and suck like others, that's all you

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Throbbin

In my experience to answer your question yes is will help you kill swashies and brigs. It will also make it harder to kill other classes. Dantel is right for alot of healers and mana shield casters you need to burn them down fast. I have tried it and it did help with rogues ALOT, but I dont use it often and pretty much pvp full dps speced most of the time. Brigs are tough but you can handle them with tactics without sta spec. My advice on swashies is just avoid them. I have beat a few but for the most part if its just a 1v1 with no outside factors entering the fight they should beat you if they have the smallest clue how to play. Fuck reach is all I have to say

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guerrilla radio

you could switch int to str and max out parry

macsux

Had STR for a while. Waste of time. That parry shit isn't anywhere near as good as advertised, at least in pvp. Went over logs with ACT across many fights, people rarely miss me even tho I supposed to have like 20% parry.

I'm sta specced right now if I solo, but yeah, coming across a class like warden you gonna have hard time outdpsing them. Trick is to sneak up on them and cast your 5min dps/haste buffs before you start fighting.

Casters, put on str debuff poison if you have time - will make them crawl. Hit them hard with CAs with longbow to make em use up manashield and keep you out of their root range. Then just go chill for 35 sec and come back to finish them off.

Lodor

Out dpsing a druid? Or any healer is easy if you switch to power tap poisons. Ever a warden with their epic will be drained.

I have full int/agi and 8/4/8 sta with maxed aas on my ranger. I also have 10k life unbuffed with this spec.

I have tried str line instead of others in the past. but the setup i use now seems to be the best one for dealing with the inflated dps all classes for most part have in RoK.

Mwink

Fuck sta and fuck rogues. Shit if you just get about 30m away hit them with a snare they are fucked. Max your spell crit get some hemos and dots going and they will bend over. Key is dont fucking let them get near you. agi/int/conservation ftw.