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Old 08-22-2008, 08:08 PM  
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My shitty CoD parse from the other night, don't remember the group setup I had tho, my bad. All trash but Levi
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War is a terrible mob for anyones parse. Your parse goes up or down off pure luck of getting or not getting Warmongered alot. Last War kill we did I was chain Mongered 6 times in a row at one point. It felt like a sat there in D Stance for 40-50% of the fight

PS - Yes I swap to D Stance while Mongered. Figure it helps the healers some and not like I can do shit tell they drop. And swapping back to O Stance is pretty much insta cast.
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Old 08-23-2008, 02:23 AM  
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Chaps DPS suck for dirge+illy all the time, just saying

Spy, sorting by type is kinda uhhh... but thats just me, i like sorting by dps more for comparison, but nice dps anyway... it was dirge/ill for sure

Just snare the monger and run in circles, crych

Just to compare - group: Paly, Monk, Dirge, Defiler, Templar iirc (not 100% sure)

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That would require effort on my part Safana. I prefer my method of click D stance and zone out tell they go away.


I still don't get how you get such high DPS from Mindbite. I've pretty much given up on that BP at this point. Maybe it's the fact we got 2 dirge a brig and a swashy also wearing it that it does such low DPS for me compared to what I see posted here.
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Chaps DPS suck for dirge+illy all the time, just saying
HAHAHA, let the in-house ranger flames begin... not.

I post my parses purely for the entertainment value. I figure if I post, then perhaps others will post. I like looking at other peeps parses hoping to find ways to improve... sorta like looking a film of the other team.

My DPS might not be Millerz or Aleyza (sp), but I highly doubt it sucks. How I know this... cause I look at my DPS in comparsion to the other DPS'ers in our raid. I know we have some very talented individuals that play at the top of their respective classes. And on certain encounters/zones I really shine, in others I shine, but not as much; nonetheless, I'm far from sucking.

Most highend ranger's stats are capped all over the place, so most of us are pretty even in that regard. So I get a little extra range skills, a proc trigger increase, a couple of other leet buffs, and I'm supposed to do 3k more than everyone else....hahaha

Its been said many times, but you can't really get a fair comparison from person's parse to another. Sooo many unknown variables in the equation. Maybe mine is bigger than yours, maybe its not. You can either read'em and weep or look and laugh.

BTW, I started out in the troub/illy group back in the day and my dps looked much like yours Safana... so, if I suck, then you...

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Old 08-24-2008, 03:32 AM  
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yea, didn't notice that shit, lol was wondering earlier tonight why my act was all fucked up like that
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Just mostly posting this to get some feedback on what to tweak:



This is my alt ranger (trash only on parse) from our alt SoH run. We do the 1st 4 named on our off night with whatever alts show up (day before we do it on mains so we bring them in for loots)

3 groups (as I said all alts), I had Illy, Troub, Conjy, Wiz, Templar in my group. (Illy had mythical, Troub was non-80) All my CA's are just ad3. In raid was sitting at like 93 dps (mod not %), 75% crit, 60% DA, capped haste, mid 800's str & shit int. I have Mythical & 2 set (legs+helm) but otherwise mostly legendary with a couple pieces of fabled that went 2 alt loot mixed in.

I know I'll likely not be able 2 get up to where mains can with gear access differences (+ rest of raid also being alts with similar gear access), just looking for tweaks I can make to improve.

Edit: Forgot 2 add, with 3 groups + being alts, raidwide was only 36k.
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Mothafuckin DARCHAP all up in this house!
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For an alt that DPS is not too bad (only 700 less than Chapp, lol )

Few things from looking at your parse:
- your avg autoattack could be higher, but that might be because the lack of debuffs with non optimal setup (maybe no brig or at least none with setbonus to extend dispatched, dunno)
- use intoxication
- use sniper arrow
- get conjuror proc instead of wizz (i know the sorcs buffs dont stack and only one can proc, not sure about the conj one, so cancel the wizz one)
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For an alt that DPS is not too bad (only 700 less than Chapp, lol )

Few things from looking at your parse:
- your avg autoattack could be higher, but that might be because the lack of debuffs with non optimal setup (maybe no brig or at least none with setbonus to extend dispatched, dunno)
- use intoxication
- use sniper arrow
- get conjuror proc instead of wizz (i know the sorcs buffs dont stack and only one can proc, not sure about the conj one, so cancel the wizz one)
Auto; Yeah I was noticing mine was lower than most, attributed it to only having 93 dps mod (that's with str ring procced) & less than 900 str. :\ We did have a brig, but yeah I don't think he has any set bonus's. I'm probably also losing a bit off the average due to having a lower crit therefore having many more auto's not crit and hit for shit numbers than a full geared ranger would. (5.5% of my Auto's hit under 4k)

Intox; That's the end int line ability correct? (Not in game ATM) I'm actually not spec'd full int line. Because this toon was an alt I spec'd a bit differently than I think most main raiders do. I'm 4, 7 ,8, 8, 1 (as opposed 2 just 4, 7, 4, 8, 1) Agi as well as going down wis 2 get the cast/recast bonus & dmg bonus on stealth skills instead of down Str for melee crit. (Hence my tiny crit %'s on melee skills) At the time I made this spec I wasn't ever raiding on him, and the quicker ability to stealth was nice for soloing since i wasn't usually behind the mob. I should probably grab a respec mirror if I'm going to start seriously work on his DPS so I can get a more raid omtimized spec?

Sniper; I guess I was under the impression that using Sniper was bad because the casting time delayed auto too much. Is that not the case?

Proc; TBH I really didn't know the buffs. I think they said in group they thought the conjy 1 only proc'd on melee while the wizzy 1 was off ranged as well, and i don't know them enough to know if thats true or not. As this is just an alt raid with a very fluid roster it's unlikely I'll have a group static enough to really plan for any of these buffs however. :\

One thing I'm not completely sure on, with Focus Aim being an effective 75s recast vs 60s timings on ranged CA's, should I be holding the ranged CA's for focus or fire them off immediatly? I'd been going on the plan of hold if they'd up within 5 seconds, if it's more than about 5 fire away, but not sure if that is correct? (Also I realize for rangers with much higher crit this becomes moot, but with my crit even in raid being only ~75 the crit bonus from Focus is nice on my larger CA's)

I know I also lost a little bit of DPS overall because I was giving an extra second or 2 on the pull before engaging auto since the tank was also just an alt (my duration was a full ~40 seconds shorter than the assassin who was #2 on the ZW behind me)

Also I'm completely unsure on coverage and my ability to make it even work is so poor (maybe 30% success) that I tend to just skip it all together. Is it actually worthwhile for me 2 attempt 2 fiigure out how 2 work it in, or just pretend it's not there? (I think this is kinda like sniper in that everyones oppinion is different, no?)

I've actually known Chapp for a long time. :P I bugged him quite a few times with probably stupid questions when I was 1st starting to really learn how 2 play a ranger. ;)

I probably shouldn't worry about it so much since it's just and alt on an alt raid, but every few fights a friend was beating me on his assassin, and I just can't have that.

1 more thing: Any ideas on a decent ring obtainable from outside of raids that I could get 2 swap for my AGI imbued when I'm in raid with Illy and don't need the haste?

Ok, 2 more things: I'm using Croaking Dirk and Maestro's now, but want 2 look for a 75+ weapon to replace Maestro's so i can use a temp DPS adorn on it since my DPS mod is so low. Should I do that, or am I undervaluing the Maestro's proc? Thinking either the weapon with 2 rangerd crit that drops of the named outside Venril's door, or the 1 with 7 DPS mod out of SoH (Nox noctis?). Good/Bad idea, and any others good ones I've missed that would attainable I should consider?

Ok, done now. :P
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