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Old 06-19-2008, 04:47 PM  
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Default Re: Opinions of Bloodthirsty Choker pls

Yep, definetly a DPS boost atm
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Old 06-19-2008, 07:25 PM  
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Sounds like its not worth losing hp each time and having a healer keeping u alive for that bit of dps, oh well, thanks Safana.

If you're in a group with a fury and you know hes wearing the choker there is no reason for you to not wear it, its just that simple. His incoming dmg on him will be greater than yours thus implying that he will throw hibernate and group heals running to heal HIS ass and yours at the same time.


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And I honestly don't think that a healer can out-dps the gain of an entire group of chokers.
That is true Cal but tbh the only classes I *mind* having to heal with a choker are those that gets more incoming dmg on them than me, because that fucks up my casting rotation and I actually lose alot of dps depending on the class ( I.E yours) ( Keep in mind that doesnt mean I tell him/her to remove his choker). So I guess my point is that you could have a full group of chokers that doesnt affect my dps at all but then you could have another one that cuts it down by 1.5k~ ish.

One thing I found usefull for that is asking the OT templar or another healer doing fuckall on trash to put repent or w/e the hell they want on the troub or the illu so that everyone in our group can fully benefit from everything and parse higher since we dont have alot of chokers outside of mage group ( only 1 troub with it and only 1 illu with it, no assasins etc.. ), those healers arent pro dpsing also so they really shouldnt mind.

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Old 06-23-2008, 11:09 AM  
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Thanks for fixing another important bug, SOE... new status: useless
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Old 06-24-2008, 07:17 PM  
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Thanks for fixing another important bug, SOE... new status: useless
Betray to Assassin and it won't be useless anymore!
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Old 06-26-2008, 07:50 PM  
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Hm, ok, tested a bit, and its not that bad like i thought... even when focus is up (>100% crit) this is a very nice damage boost.
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Old 06-29-2008, 04:58 PM  
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The lose of 4% ranged crit would result in a DPS loss of around 1-1,5% DPS (while ago i calculated the dps gain of 1% ranged crit: ~0,3%). So I would say you will gain about 2% ZW. But thats just theory.

That seems kind of low for 1% crit. Especially when you have an item like Thuuga which has 4 Ranged and Melee Crit (so it increases everything but spell damage). It would be a minimum of .3% per point, but don't your bows have huge damage spreads? That greatly increases the average effectiveness of a crit. Unless you guys do a lot more spell damage than I realize.

I know this post is from like 3 weeks ago, but I'm hella bored at work, so I decided to see what the ranjas were up to.



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Old 06-30-2008, 03:10 PM  
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i tested training wall parses again, the dps between the choker and thuuga is very indistinguishably different. So i'm switching back to thuuga.
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Old 06-30-2008, 07:10 PM  
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Well, parsing wall means a fucking shit.
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Old 07-02-2008, 08:53 AM  
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So what the verdict on this since the fix ? Both the assassins in my guild use it. I seen a pretty good dps increase for them, but does it help a ranger ? Having a hard time hanging with the assassins these days as they are getting geared alot better.
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Old 07-02-2008, 09:25 AM  
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Choker is a must have Assassin beacuse 60% of their DPS is from CA and +10% CA Bonus is a lot more for them (very high damage spells).

I think it's worth it. Safana always use Choker now and it looks like he's doing higher DPS with it than Thuuga.
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