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Old 07-19-2008, 01:34 AM  
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Done no calculation on that ring, but its crap for sure:
\aITEM -1365173422 -462955226:Ring of Rancor\/a

If you kill avatars, you prolly have done some VP runs, and even if you are extremely unlucky on hellfired and/or set you wont take this shit:
\aITEM 1262135672 -406859529:Wristplates of the Dark Lord\/a

If you start raiding you prolly have a polished jade band and a str imbued ring, both better than this:
\aITEM 1593072065 1805470153:Disarming Band\/a

Melee DA and CA dmg, WTF?
\aITEM 5977568 1307174809:Lava-forged Chainmail\/a

Just a few comments about some pieces ;)
While i understand your point including these items here and as most rangers raiding still at this point in the expansion there are rangers who would possibly use the above mentioned items. They might not be optimal but they are still in the realm of possibility for your average ranger to own. I understand the whole min/max get the most out of every slot argument but not every person is able to get the gear they want and alternatives are out there. Sure its not optimal but it probally better than nothing.
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Old 07-19-2008, 04:44 AM  
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No, the above mentioned items are not just not optimal, they are retard choices.
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No, the above mentioned items are not just not optimal, they are retard choices.
Thats just the thing they still are choices and if you want you can equip them so i added them to the list. I dont think that adding or subtracting items based on 1 single players opinion of them being "retarded" is a good reason to exclude them from a list of gear that is aiming to be all inclusive.
I find it laughable that you would pass on Wristplates of the Dark Lord if you had the chance to get them if they were an upgrade over your current gear. +dps + ca damage +str/int and great resists. Why would you pass on the gear? Outside of ranged crit the Wristplates are a better choice in EVERY way. If the item was going to rot or if i could get it for a low amount of dkp i wouldnt mind having some in my bags.
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Also for the sake of argument i am going to include Lava Forged Chainmail in this argument. Sure it have very little use for a established raiding ranger that is geared up properly but stranger things have happened. How about if you had a player back from a long hiatus. Wouldnt you want them in some armor that was at least current with very good stats and a little damage help with the + CA damage? They drop at the front of VP and i am sure will be on about 10000 alts before the end of the expansion. It is a very good baseline BP from witch to build up from. It has a great source of Str and Int while they would be alot better with +Ranged Double Attack and CA damage they are not "retarded" in the fact that i would laugh a ranger wearing them out of the raid. Not everyone is lucky with the drops they need and if you can upgrade your current gear than by all means i say do so. Sure there are about 3 legendary chests that are better suited for a ranger but sometimes you just do not get the drops and make the best out of what you have got.


This isnt a list to just have top end pieces. It is a list that includes almost EVERY mob in the t8 raiding scene and any possible relevant drops that those mobs may have on them. A list is not a guide to min/max your ranger. The class is not a uniform and sometimes different playstyles work better for different players. I created the list as a quick resource to identify possible upgrades quickly and efficiently.

I asked for feedback and suggestions not attacks on the choices of gear i made as being "retarded". Yes i am aware it is a flame site but it does not mean that every list that is created as a resource needs to be argued over. Just accept the fact that not every ranger will see eye to eye with you about gear choices. I am trying to not alienate any segment of the raiding ranger community be it the noob ranger just testing the waters in t1 to the completely mastered out avatar killing raid leader of a prominent raid guild. I looked at your suggestions about the loot and just dont see enough reason to remove any of the items you listed. I do welcome any additions i may have overlooked.
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Well then ffs include every item, that is wearable for a ranger, because a ranger might take it before it rots because he does not have an item for that slot yet, that is labeled fabled lol.
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Old 07-19-2008, 01:17 PM  
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I think we both know there is a line that has to be drawn but it seems like the line i am drawing is probally lower than yours? Its just a list i dont give a fuck i just want to add the usefull heroic gear to be honest.
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why not put asterisks in the list for the **ARGUABLY OPTIMAL** gear? leave the arguably trash/filler gear without em.... that way thers nothing to question and if someone can make a strong argument for or against an item - add or subtract a *
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Well i dont want to flame your list, great you make then, i just see some "noob ranger" coming here, looking at the list. He looks at the mobs his raid kills and selects the items from those hoping they drop to bid on them, not knowing you only included them, because they might be an upgraded if you have absolute nothing in that slot... now you got the point? You know how often people asked for example if items are good for us that have double attack chance on them, not knowing that double attack chance only means melee double attack chance? Every day there is some ranger whining because scout xyz bid on his item, that has ranger stats (well maybe that scout looked on some list for his class listing that item lol)... now you include items that are vise versa into the ranger gear list.
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i lost those imbrued chain legs outa SoH to a swash ... /vomit

i know the feeling - i think we should use a points system (asterisks) and just say this is <3 breaker offa tangrin and its fuggin redic ***** whereas something like mirrored armgards gets a * with an explanation like

*****<-- if someone bids u up ... go all in
* <-- dont even look twice... you'll mute it in a week or two
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i lost those imbrued chain legs outa SoH to a swash ... /vomit

i know the feeling - i think we should use a points system (asterisks) and just say this is <3 breaker offa tangrin and its fuggin redic ***** whereas something like mirrored armgards gets a * with an explanation like

*****<-- if someone bids u up ... go all in
* <-- dont even look twice... you'll mute it in a week or two
That would make for an interesting conversation on each piece to say the least. Discussinng and rating every piece of gear in this thread would take a few weeks but i wouldnt be opposed to it.
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Well i dont want to flame your list, great you make then, i just see some "noob ranger" coming here, looking at the list. He looks at the mobs his raid kills and selects the items from those hoping they drop to bid on them, not knowing you only included them, because they might be an upgraded if you have absolute nothing in that slot... now you got the point? You know how often people asked for example if items are good for us that have double attack chance on them, not knowing that double attack chance only means melee double attack chance? Every day there is some ranger whining because scout xyz bid on his item, that has ranger stats (well maybe that scout looked on some list for his class listing that item lol)... now you include items that are vise versa into the ranger gear list.
I will tell that ranger to go full dkp. It will be awesome.
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