Proposed gear for melee range fights

speedycerv · 07-30-2008, 10:06 PM

I've found through safana's math that the re2 pieces can in fact be better than certain raid gear.
(if you are able to get in melee range for the whole fight)

The item's in question are the wind worn ring (LootDB.com | EverQuest II Item Database - Wind Worn Ring) and gahdash's bangle (LootDB.com | EverQuest II Item Database - Gahdash's Bangle)

vs

the bloodstone emperor's signet ring (Xanadu Community) and sokokar blood bangle (Xanadu Community)

these numbers are for me only so there will be some variance for other players. Each RDA does 17 dps for me. the 2 items in question give 6 RDA all together, which give 102 dps total. (zonewide).
without factoring in the minor stat differences, the gains from the re2 items are:
4RC
100CA+
80dps (zonewide) proc (on non-goblins)
ok so 6 rda does 102 dps right, and the proc does 80 dps on it's own. so then lets talk about the ca dmg. on this particular zonewide I did 812 hits from ca's (easy way to do this is your flame song swings + 1/3 of your quickshot hits). The formula is (hits* ca dmg)/time in seconds. 1410 was the time zw in the amount of seconds.
812*100ca=81200/1410= 58dps
58+80=138> 102. and we didn't even factor in the ranged crit. (which is pretty hard to figure out unless u just raid w/o focus aim heh).

The reason why this wouldn't work on pure ranged fights, or ones where u have to joust a lot is because the ca dmg and the proc wouldn't do as much for you, you are attacking less. So the RDA is better for those fights. Feel free to disagree with this. I talked it over with my mentor Safana and he thought i should post about it. So here you go.

Jagerr · 07-31-2008, 03:47 AM

It is certainlty interesting.

Hexus · 07-31-2008, 06:02 AM

Yup, there's a reason some of us are wearing both of them sometimes during raids.

-Hexus-

Rohoni · 07-31-2008, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedycerv

I've found through safana's math that the re2 pieces can in fact be better than certain raid gear.
(if you are able to get in melee range for the whole fight)

The item's in question are the wind worn ring (LootDB.com | EverQuest II Item Database - Wind Worn Ring) and gahdash's bangle (LootDB.com | EverQuest II Item Database - Gahdash's Bangle)

vs

the bloodstone emperor's signet ring (Xanadu Community) and sokokar blood bangle (Xanadu Community)

these numbers are for me only so there will be some variance for other players. Each RDA does 17 dps for me. the 2 items in question give 6 RDA all together, which give 102 dps total. (zonewide).
without factoring in the minor stat differences, the gains from the re2 items are:
4RC
100CA+
80dps (zonewide) proc (on non-goblins)
ok so 6 rda does 102 dps right, and the proc does 80 dps on it's own. so then lets talk about the ca dmg. on this particular zonewide I did 812 hits from ca's (easy way to do this is your flame song swings + 1/3 of your quickshot hits). The formula is (hits* ca dmg)/time in seconds. 1410 was the time zw in the amount of seconds.
812*100ca=81200/1410= 58dps
58+80=138> 102. and we didn't even factor in the ranged crit. (which is pretty hard to figure out unless u just raid w/o focus aim heh).

The reason why this wouldn't work on pure ranged fights, or ones where u have to joust a lot is because the ca dmg and the proc wouldn't do as much for you, you are attacking less. So the RDA is better for those fights. Feel free to disagree with this. I talked it over with my mentor Safana and he thought i should post about it. So here you go.

Without knowing what belt you're wearing, don't forget about the 3rd piece of the set. LootDB.com | EverQuest II Item Database - Chieftain's Baldric
Pretty good ranger stats anyways (not all of us drop Byzola regularly). Also, will give +20% to your proc meaning 80 x 1.2 = 96 dps ZW now. As well as an additional 2 ranged crit and 2 melee crit and +20 CA damage for completing the set.

Hexus · 07-31-2008, 10:05 AM

Unless you're swinging the shard of hate/fear, then the collection item will add another 20%, unless you just can't live without your rune of gorowynian intent or whatever..

-Hexus-

Rohoni · 07-31-2008, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hexus

Unless you're swinging the shard of hate/fear, then the collection item will add another 20%, unless you just can't live without your rune of gorowynian intent or whatever..

-Hexus-

It annoys the shit out of me that i have no idea which collection quest item you're talking about and eq2 wiki doesn't have rewards listed yet for all the quests. would love to sideline the gorowynian for something new. Any chance you could post it and say which quest it comes from?

Cexi · 07-31-2008, 12:23 PM

\aITEM -583543768 -1011090096:Large Brick of Unrefined Ore\/a - Maybe?

Hexus · 07-31-2008, 01:36 PM

That would be the one.

Thx Cexi.

-Hexus-

Rohoni · 07-31-2008, 03:38 PM

Which collection quest is that though?

Hexus · 07-31-2008, 03:46 PM

helmet, breastplate, etc...

Just look on the broker for the one that's like 14-20p per item...

-Hexus-