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Old 08-07-2008, 11:08 PM  
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General Quesionaire:

Do you use Crit and RDA potions 100% of the time you're raiding?

How much DPS does 3.2% of either of the above equate to?


Go figure out the combination of those two questions and then get back to me. So many of you sound like all the whiny bitchy brigand and mages crying their asses off over the change to Dispatch and the other brig debuffs.

OMFG the debuff won't auto land even on a miss!!! Whaaaaa

/ignore fact the CA lands 98-99% of the time.


Stop acting like a bunch of dress wearing mages.
for me its not about what got nerfed its about why and what else didn't get fixed at the same time. Yea 4.8 is lame after 8 for almost a year, but so is the dev who fixed it saying this just after the 16% problem came up:

There is a bug with the Ranger AA conservation which is allowing for a large amount of gain to potions currently.
.... He pretends that it was a new bug, not just a worsening of an existing one. He continued with this:
I'm sorry that that bug existed for so long but usually players don't /bug things that benefit them.

This is a fun comment for many reasons. It's true I didn't bug this particular iteration of the problem, because I had done so with the 8% way back when and saw how much good that did. I've all but given up on using /bug at all except for when I'm on test, and come to think of it, I was on my SK for this LU's test preview, so not sure if it was 16% there too or not.

But the really fun part is apparently the things that don't get /bugged get fixed, while things that I've bugged constantly remain unchanged, unmentioned, and ignored. That is what I am disgruntled about, not crying or begging for a reversion to the old ways with this potion thing (which I'm still not convinced Conservation is working as intended yet) I might start using those whet/flash stones again on my bow to compensate, will have to test it out. A compromise would have been sweet, but all I really want is unbiased fixing of all bugs, not just ones that benefit us.




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Old 08-08-2008, 07:29 AM  
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i highly recommend that you all send crychtonn (that would be blackburrow.crychtonn) tells about how you feel for good or ill about the situation to discuss it in-depth. also, he has a pretty poor memory. so it would be best to do so on a day to day basis for reinforcement. i have it on good authority that he is good friends with someone that can change things.
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Old 08-08-2008, 09:34 AM  
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i highly recommend that you all send crychtonn (that would be blackburrow.crychtonn) tells about how you feel for good or ill about the situation to discuss it in-depth. also, he has a pretty poor memory. so it would be best to do so on a day to day basis for reinforcement. i have it on good authority that he is good friends with someone that can change things.

Hahahah... Sweet... I'll get right on it!
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Old 08-08-2008, 09:49 AM  
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Don't be mad because I called you out on your retardation, I realize all you have to come back with is that I don't play anymore, but I still matter more than you. I guess that hurts, but one day you will get over it. I cannot believe you're fucking complaining when you benefited from a bug for OVER A FUCKING YEAR and then try and act like other classes get their beneficial bugs forever, seriously, you're being a fucking moron and I don't even have to play the game to know that.
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Old 08-08-2008, 10:55 AM  
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"better than we were before" Fuck all that shit. I'm not gonna take what they give me and be happy with it even though we are still fucked. And i am gonna be pissed about this fix. All this shit shouldn't have happened in the first fucking place but it did because they don't read bug reports. You can't let a bug linger for that long, then finally decide to fix it and act like no one is allowed to bitch because it wasn't 'intended'. Don't whine that the potions don't do as much anymore, yell about how this whole thing is just another addition to the monument of devs holding their ears and saying 'i'm not listening la la la la'

I'm not happy with shit just because its better than a kick in the nuts, apparently thats just me though.

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Old 08-08-2008, 11:34 AM  
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Frustration is gonna be apparent... but this is the reason Dev's have a hard time taking the feedback we give them. It's gotta be tough to sift through all the bitching and whining to find "Valid" concerns.

1) This should NOT have come as a surprise to anyone
2) We knew the AA line gave a 20% increase so how can you be mad?
3) There are more important things to bitch about that are actually "Valid"

The AA lines need a serious "Looking at" we all agree on that. But man the fuck up and act like ya got a pair. FFS this is retarded to complain about.

If the bank accidentally deposited $300.00 into your account (THAT WASN'T YOURS IN THE 1ST PLACE) then a year later they took it back... would you yell at them? the money was never yours and you knew it... even if you called them 300 times about the error and they did nothing... the money still isn't yours and if/when they took it back you have NO right to complain.

Same goes for the potion bug. It wasn't right to begin with so we got to have fun with 8% and 16% for a bit, now its gone... suck... but welcome to grown up life.

I agree it blows and I would love to see the AA at least be 50%, but complain about that then and not this "FIX"

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Old 08-08-2008, 12:15 PM  
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I think your missing the point on the aa line and the fix.

It not that it was fixed. They took the time to look at the bug finally. How long had they known,how many bug reports,info did they have? Who knows, who cares. Decided it should .8 increase as orinally designed. That fine and dandy. They should have asked themselves is the aa line is where it should be, what is the right amount to have rangers get off this aa line. If you are going to take the time to fix the aa after it been bugged for 10 months. Then look at the line fix it properly cause 10 months of 8 should have shown them that it was reasonable and not out of line.
Some act like changing the wording or examining the aa line needs to take an act of god. So becuase the orignal amount of 20% was there then it the only solution ? Please.

Whining ? No just think they/he could have used this chance to fix the entirity of the line instead of taking the easy/lazy way around it. There is no excuse for fixing a known 10 month bug , leaving another in, in the same aa line and not looking at options afforded them at the time with the info at hand. It shows lack of understanding, caring, and professionalism on the dev. part.
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Old 08-08-2008, 12:25 PM  
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I think your missing the point on the aa line and the fix.
Nope I'm not missing the point at all. Most people aren't making a vaild point at all... just bitching.

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It not that it was fixed. They took the time to look at the bug finally. How long had they known,how many bug reports,info did they have?
Does it matter? It took them a long time... it takes me a long time to get my tax refund to... such is life

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They should have asked themselves is the aa line is where it should be, what is the right amount to have rangers get off this aa line.
BINGO... Great point and totally agree. This was my original Point.
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Old 08-08-2008, 12:30 PM  
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If the bank accidentally deposited $300.00 into your account (THAT WASN'T YOURS IN THE 1ST PLACE) then a year later they took it back... would you yell at them? the money was never yours and you knew it... even if you called them 300 times about the error and they did nothing... the money still isn't yours and if/when they took it back you have NO right to complain.
They should double your interest to reimburse you for the lost of $300!!!
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Old 08-08-2008, 12:57 PM  
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They should double your interest to reimburse you for the lost of $300!!!

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