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Old 01-28-2009, 11:49 AM  
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Default Ranger or Swashy PVP...

Well I have a 22 Ranger who is a mean pvp killer but there are a couple of things the Swashy gets that really make me want to play him as my main...

First you can smuggle your entire group...

Second you can get 100% Feign Death, This is just too awesome I mean if your questing you can already sneak past most things WITH your group then if you catch aggro... 100% Feign Death. C'mon

Third you can Stun Stun Stun... Hmm this is pretty important in PVP.

Besides range and a little faster run speed what does the ranger offer that I should be considering??
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Old 01-28-2009, 01:22 PM  
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Rangers offer:
1. Snares: the key to our survival (which is assumed that many people want to nerf it, even though people run at very fast run speeds as it is.)
2. Hook Arrow: Prevent people from running away
3. Auto attack damage: It doesn't happen too often, but you can auto attack for 2k damage at end tier, and can also double attack as well. You can also auto attack at 0m ranged with your epic bow.
4. Procs: This goes with Ranged auto attack. Procs add up and it does help allot in pvp.
5. Evac spec: Can spec to evac faster and have a faster reuse. I don't spec this though
6. Defensive Specs: There are specs which you can increase your survivability. I max out at 50% mit and 64% avoidance right now with 171 aas at level 80.
7. Ranged: Right now I can max out to 54m range. Many people can't even cast that far.
8. Track (of course.)

Though there are some advantages to rangers, lets look at some of the disadvantages:

1. Ranged: This is both an advantage and a disadvantage. If we can maintain our ranged, we can be very frustrating to kill. However, if a class can get right into your face, you are screwed. You can only auto attack at 0m ranged and cast melee skills, which suck. Have to be at least 2m ranged for your ranged CA's.
2. Constant Nerfing. Rangers have always been nerfed. From hook arrow to focus aim and beyond. We are always threatened to be nerfed since the beginning of our class in pvp.
3. Unlucky auto attacks: This has happened to me alot. I usually get up to at least 1.5k damage on hit, but I can also hit only 500 damage, which sucks especially if they are green con and they run away at full run speed
4. Snares: It's a key to our survival, but don't rely too much on it. It breaks more often than you think, and since people been complaining about it, it's likely to be nerfed. (#2)
5. No other forms of CC: We don't get the stuns, stiffles, or roots that the other scouts get. Well other than snare and cheapshot, we also have a root that lasts for 4 seconds or less.
6. Survivability: We weren't meant to survive long in pvp. We were meant to quickly kill targets before they can reach us. Usually you have only a few seconds to kill someone before you're screwed, especially if they have a group flying in from somewhere.

Depends on your playstyle. If you like melee, stay on your swash. If you like being at ranged and having fun dealing with the shit ton of nerfs, then go ranger.
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Old 01-28-2009, 01:43 PM  
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Default Re: Ranger or Swashy PVP...

Hey thanks for the good info, I think Swashy might be more my style as I like to get in there face and even Tank if there isn't a real one around...

It's just to hard to pass up 100% Feign Death...
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Old 01-28-2009, 02:01 PM  
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Rangers are top end DPS. You could tinker to 400 in 2 hours and get FD 99%. Our autoattack can be used in close. Mythicaled it goes up exponentially the closer you are. Granted you are right now lower level but at top end Rangers are the way to go. There are some good shields that you can get to tank in a pinch. When GU 51 goes live hate transfer is being revamped so deaggros and hate decreasing should allow rangers to hold aggro more in a pinch to tank. At least as I understand. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
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Old 01-28-2009, 02:28 PM  
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Default Re: Ranger or Swashy PVP...

What are the 99% FD Tinkered Items called?? Can you buy them or do you need to be a Tinkerer??
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Old 01-28-2009, 02:33 PM  
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What are the 99% FD Tinkered Items called?? Can you buy them or do you need to be a Tinkerer??
Tinkering Recipes / Tinkering Items - EQ2-Daily.com EQ2 Wiki

NO DROP, so you must be the Tinkerer yourself.
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Old 01-28-2009, 02:39 PM  
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You don't even need to craft them all the way through the 4 bars to advance it. Stop the crafting process after the first bar and you get the same amount of increase in skill if you were to make it through the 4 bars. Makes it faster.
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Old 01-28-2009, 04:53 PM  
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Thanks, sux that I chose Transmuting for my ranger... I already have allot invested into it...
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Old 01-29-2009, 02:31 PM  
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What is your xmuting skill at? If not at 300 then you haven't invested anything yet.
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Old 01-29-2009, 04:58 PM  
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I'm at 100... Think I should switch??
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