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    Default Ranger vs. assassin this xpac

    As some of you may know, I raid primarily on my inquisitor these days (and for a while now). Furthermore, Strike doesn't have a ranger main in guild or apping (nor do we want one). On a couple occasions, however, due to this expansion's renewed emphasis on dps, I have played my ranger on a raid. Of course, my ranger's dps in this context is hardly illuminating as to the current state of rangers, as my ranger is getting gear after all mains (including apps), and is therefore presently under-geared. This fact will of course change over time.

    As a result of the periodic need of me on a dps class and the strong emphasis on dps this expansion, I am considering whether I should betray to assassin to better serve my guild's needs. Thus, I obviously need to determine whether or not assassins still do superior dps, a question I have difficulty answering myself. I have gotten somewhat conflicting reports thus far. In looking at the parses posted on these boards, I see a few decently high ranger parses, but most of the high parses, between the two predator classes, appear to be from assassins. On the other hand, this fact might be a consequence merely of the possible fact that there are more high-end assassins out there, as a result of the past superiority of the class.

    Thus, I am interested in people's experiences with respect to this issue, particularly in the context of similarly-geared, similarly-skilled players in similar raid/group setups. I appreciate any input.

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    Default Re: Ranger vs. assassin this xpac

    play a wizard.

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    Default Re: Ranger vs. assassin this xpac

    i have both and on teh short burn fights assassins are better assassinate still hits a lot harder than snipershot but over longer fights good rangers will close the gap,
    Imop stright burn fights assassin, AE fights i would guess rangers, super hard fights id say ranger as well

    Edit: after loking at more assassin parses sniper and assassinate are more or less same, and the top end rangers are doing close to teh top end assassins per burn fight

    one thing taht does suck and scrues a good parse some times are mobs with different fucking size hitboxes eg the second last guy in Temple of Rallos Zek: Foundations of Stone and the first one oh and the second one

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    Default Re: Ranger vs. assassin this xpac

    Both classes are pretty even this expansion. All depends on what play style you prefer and how well you play it. A lot of the time it depends on luck with EW procs too.

    There are more large parses from assassins than there are from rangers but, like you said, it does have more to do with there being about three times as many assassins raiding in high end guilds than there are rangers.

    Last I checked, the highest numbers on the HM encounters aren't higher on assassin than they are on rangers.

    On fights that are less than 30 seconds, who really cares?
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    Default Re: Ranger vs. assassin this xpac

    an assassin in a melee group is still going to do a lot more then ranger.

    ranger in mage group can still put out very good numbers while an assassin wont comparably.
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    Default Re: Ranger vs. assassin this xpac

    Assassins have transfer and hemo, which rangers don't. While rangers can parse almost on par they are buff whores and offer little else besides DPS in return.

    I don't see the point in being a ranger really, especially with almost all current DoV fights being sub minute burns.

    That said I guess its personal choice since you build your raids and can make sure you get all the buffs you need as a ranger to be competitive.

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    Default Re: Ranger vs. assassin this xpac

    I mean, I don't really want to whore buffs when I play my ranger just to be almost-competitive, lol. If rangers need amazing buff setups to be almost competitive with assassins with lesser buff setups, I can't see much point in being a ranger, unless rangers can actually do superior dps on some dps fights, such as longer fights that remain dps-intensive. Hard-mode Valdemarr comes to mind as a fight that is longer, but still dps-intensive (I doubt the 1-minute burn can work on him).

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    Default Re: Ranger vs. assassin this xpac

    This whole length of time bullshit is bullshit though. The only issue is shit where you have to stay jousted for any length of time and I can't even think of very many fights that are like that. Maybe Eireen but as a ranger it'd suck to try to stay on the adds anyway.

    I played both in beta and ended up staying assassin on live. Carp's numbers are impressive but he could do the same or more DPS if he betrayed while also being more useful to the raid.

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    Default Re: Ranger vs. assassin this xpac

    You were ranger before. And a good one if rumors were true. Even tho we never got along.

    I would say stay ranger. Get all the good gear that makes your Overpowered auto attack hit 5x each turn. This mechanic pretty much is tailored for the ranger class.

    We dont have an assassin, but we do have Maplewood. And after parsing against him I will never ever listen to another ranger bitch. Well...never until I get the 490% spell double I deserve.

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    Default Re: Ranger vs. assassin this xpac

    Looking at the posted parses, it doesn't even look like ranger auto attack is doing particularly more dps than assassin auto attack right now. Furthermore, even if I were to accept the contention that high MA mods favor rangers over assassins, don't the predators posting the high parses (which nevertheless appear to show assassins generally ahead) already have pretty high MA mods for this xpac? Therefore, accepting that same contention as true for the sake of argument, should I seriously believe that high MA mods will somehow cause rangers to pull ahead? To be sure, MA mods will go higher as the xpac progresses and people get more gear and new gear is released, but the belief that rangers may pull even or ahead at some point due to escalating MA mods strikes me as a flimsy and speculative basis for remaining a ranger (again, accepting the above contention as true).

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