Calbiyum

I don't really like his avatar. It doesn't look like the guy is yelling what it says at all.

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Senelin

It doesn't even look like he's yelling real words... just doing the classic Van Damme anguish/defiance yowl; wtf

One thing about Laodaron again, is that like people have said if you're going to ban him, you need to look at what others are doing on the whole as well. He spams and trolls, but also posts some enlightening information (or used to) as opposed to some who's enlightening information is to let us know that they think something or someone is gay and/or retarded, that being the extent of their wisdom.

Rinion

ooooo.... only 63% guilty! not quite 2/3rds how sad

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gungo

i kinda want to see him get 2/3 becuase if he doesnt the drama will end, but if he does....Well then the drama continues.

Really like a 2 week probation will mean anything.

That is almost as sad as giving a coach a $500,000 fine for cheating when he will make that in bonuses.

Senelin

They recently fined an F1 team 100 million dollars for an infraction, you'd need something that serious to really get the point across.

gungo

On the commisioners side though $500,000 is the maximum penalty he is allowed to levy and only time this has been levied.

And $250,000 to the owner (financial backer) who may or may not know the exact details of what happened.

And a Loss of a 1st round pick is a huge loss to any team especially considering its the first time this type of punishment has also been levied.

I do not think a suspension of a coach will effect a team much. (a player yes). reason being in this day and age a coach can easily get live feed to his office, easily give calls from his office and be in contact with his multiple coaching staff at all times. He can easily train and prepare his team, give a throrough game plan and be prepared. i really don't see how a suspension would have as more of an impact then a first round pick.

The problem is people feel that to this team in its current situation it doesn't really effect them. While $500,000 to a lowest paid coach in the NFL may have him eating ramon noodles the rest of the season it would have barely any effect on Belicheck. And the loss a first round on a struggling team would have them stuggle a little longer. While the pats just happened to have 2 first rounds next season and more then likely thier own pick would of been low it wouldn't have as hard as an effect on this sollid team.

Point being in the end the letter was sent to all NFL teams last year because several teams were allegedly conducting the same type of actions. The belicheck was just arogant enough to get caught blantly doing it during the season opener. I really do beleive he felt he could get away with it, because of his interpretions of the rules and the fact he felt everyone was doing the same. Its the same reason why coaches uses mock signals and hide thier face when they give calls. It is not like this type of action was a shocking new relevation.

Giving the current guidelines i think the maximum fine along with the first time 1st pick loss is a good call for a 1st quarter, 1st game infraction. it is not as if anything they did really had a direct impact on this season. Maybe the guidelines need to be redone to raise the maximum penalty for the overpaid personel in this day and age.

The point is the message was sent "If you get Caught, doing this type of activity then you will be punished. "

Pinski

In the Premiership when a manager gets a touchline ban, it means they can't talk to anybody on the touchline. Which one would think that the NFL could easily suspend a coach like that as well, and if they find out that he was violating the ruling of the "ban," he could probably be fined/banned again. But considering this isn't the first time they've done it, although the first time somebody actually pressed against it and they got caught, one would think a stiffer penalty would be done to the coach, like a multiple-game "touchline ban."

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Wade wilson, QB coach of the Dallas Cowboys, was suspended for 4 games (I think). He is allowed absolutely no contact with anyone associated with the dallas cowboys. I don't think even reporters who cover the cowboys are talking to him for fear their team access might have to be severed. I would assume if Bill had been suspended, it would have been much the same deal.

I initially thought the punishment was fair, with the exception that they should have forfeited the game where they were caught cheating. Now that i know they have 2 first rounders, and I also heard it could be a 2nd and 3rd rounder instead if they miss the playoffs (or some shit like that) ... they got off way too light.

Aaaand to bring this back on topic, bill is a lot more guilty than lao, so accordingly, his punishment will be much worse. But woe to bill if LFG was NFL commish.

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gungo

Haha but in wade wilsons problem he got caught not only breaking league rules but federal laws. I believe steroids or HGH in his case is held under a higher scrutiny then watching what other coaches call. The commissioner is walking into new territory here, becuase this type of action was done before just ignored to a degree.

I still don't think with the involvement the coach has with preparing his team and assistant coaches that a suspension will do as much as loss of first round picks. Unless that suspension involves no Contact with his team for a specified time. Which at that point basically punishes the whole for the actions of the few. Which is not exactly fair either.

My favorite part is mangini is the one who called him out. The anomosity between the 2 coaches is blatant. And one can not deny that mangini called out belicheck on this because he always knew it was happening. He knew who to look for and what to look for simply becuase he was an assistant on the team under belicheck. Mangini defintely Punk'd belicheck on this one.

And what does this have to do with Loa? Well basically imho Lao is being made an example of an action that he may or may not be the only one doing it. So how much of a punishment should he get? Should he be made an example of? Should his actions that even caused this thread be ignored? If it is left unchecked will this site fall down a slippery slope where no boundaries are set? I don't know if i have the answers to any of these questions. I am just glad i don't have to make them.

gungo

I dont agree with this line of thinking what so ever. Because they have 2 first round picks due to trades they should be further penalized. What if the Packers (which was alledged) got caught doign the same and they only had 1 first round pick is it ok then? If a "crime" under the NFL guidelines are commited i would expect each team to be treated the same regardless of thier success.

Also the whole 1st or 2nd and 3rd rounder doesn't make much sense to me. I know a first round pick usually increases you chances of a quality player, but whether they win or loose it shouldn't effect the outcome of thier punishment. Good thing in most cases a low first round pick is probably just as good as a second and third round pick.