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Old 10-19-2007, 06:57 AM  
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Default Re: Modesty/Papillion and Iltuk/Quimby - Splitpaw

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I don't see any anon posters. Both Fourthhorseman and Dreadfoot are actual players on Nektulos.

I think my posting name was too cryptic for 1 of the readers. Course it's the same one defending Iltuk and Modesty....so well I can't expect much...

I added same information in my posting name to my profile, that should help out even people stupid enough to defend Iltuk.
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Old 10-19-2007, 07:00 AM  
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Killing smilies when posting logs helps somewhat

I have little posting exp. and NEVER with a log file. I wasn't going to edit the log to prove something that I already knew.

I wish he had actually sent that letter he was yappin about so we could have seen a REAL reason for taking shit, leaving, then coming back and giving it back.
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Old 10-19-2007, 07:18 AM  
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Default Re: Modesty/Papillion and Iltuk/Quimby - Splitpaw

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Yeah, hes a good tank, but you guys prob didnt like him leaving so you jump on the hate wagon.
Iltuk was a fucking terrible tank.
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Old 10-19-2007, 07:26 AM  
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Default Re: Modesty/Papillion and Iltuk/Quimby - Splitpaw

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MMM I was expecting more drama tbh, guild chat seemed timid....

And yeah the guildbank thing, he does give a reason (I don't agree with it, but I can understand his point).

And honestly if he "robbed" would he keep playing with the same toonnames after servertransfer? No...

And in the end even some people in youre guild werent to fussed from what I understand from the log they wanted to keep alts in to keep in touch and one guy didn't even mind.
1: I was not adding drama that day, cause I wanted him to actually come and deal with the problem. He had moved his toons and wasn't responding to anyone. I got him to log in by saying "You are a thief and I've got the screenshots to show what youtook and will post on the Splitpaw servers". He was on and in guild chat in 5 min to start his spin...which was poor.

2: I can see his point, but I think that just helps my case really...who but an asshat would think that is justifyable? oh yes...his little buddy Odoon, who I may add stuck up for Iltuk until the day iltuk never talked to him again...

3:Iltuk did change his name when they were moving toons. It took several days for me to find him. He changed from Orpheus to Quimby i think.

4:Odoon and his wife Waratah were unexplainably willing to forgive him for this. IN the end of my days in the guild it was this attitude that made me quit Blackguard.


it's very strange to be here justifying this...makes me feel we in blackguard did anything wrong...other than trust Iltuk and Modesty (the ultimately responsible person for the guild) we did no wrong.

It was a GREAT GUILD, until they pulled the Eject lever. Great if you like grouping and raiding with first name basis friends.

I ask you...would you leave a guild of 63 accounts with no word, changing your toon names and ignore all who sent you tells?

Would you do it if you started the guild?

I have still not heard a word from Modesty about her motivations with this move, just 1 EQ Mail, with outrage that we would question why the leader of the guild would remove 22+ of the rareist masters from guild bank. HOW DARE WE!?
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Old 10-19-2007, 07:45 AM  
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Iltuk was a fucking terrible tank.
thats why that ogre is locked in basement, only allowing to do carpenter stuff
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Old 10-19-2007, 10:55 AM  
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Yeah, hes a good tank, but you guys prob didnt like him leaving so you jump on the hate wagon.
lol, wtf?
I wasn't in Validus when he left. But I do know all those funny stories about him tanking for Ascendance. Why do you think Burno started tanking again?

As a brig I think he fell asleep once in a while and parsed way lower than me but I only raided with him for 1-2 weeks before I went off for holidays so maybe he's a decent brig. I wouldn't know.

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Old 10-19-2007, 11:34 AM  
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I remember Quimbs bitching at me for taking loot that I wanted, after giving up loot for 6+ months and having near 100% raid attendance in Validus. And tbh I never really wanted him in guild because he was parsing very low and he complained about me to the officers that I was complaining to him about his shitty skills. I had to double take on that cause I only said that he should try and improve his DPS.

I was told by Fafne (the joke of a swashy, but good person) to back off and that he was really trying to improve. He did improve, but not by a whole lot. And tbh he wouldn't have had much impact on my stand in the guild cause imo I was well respected in the guild, although I did argue a lot (specially with Chloe :P), I also made people smile.

After he made me leave Validus is when the real drama started, or so I was told atleast. Modesty was very quiet and not often online, but she didn't really try to play her dirge from the parses I've analized.
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Old 10-19-2007, 12:43 PM  
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Uh ... I only want to address the person who apparently has some of Iltuks splooge still in his mouth ... your "Why would he keep the same toon names when transfering" thing...well, first maybe he just figured no one would say anything (hell it took months before someone did), or SECOND why do some people rob people they know? Because they can get away with it. What can you do to stop him in this except whats done here? Nothing really.
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Old 10-19-2007, 03:12 PM  
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although I did argue a lot (specially with Chloe :P), I also made people smile.
I miss you tbh Eza tho we argued you still made me smile
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It REALLY hurts to say this a second thime, but Chloe is right, again, goddammit! /shoots self
My rightness can also be seen here >>> http://www.eq2flames.com/splitpaw/26...uiting-15.html
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Old 10-20-2007, 07:40 AM  
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No doubt they are not to be trusted. Idrovo, you'll get yours if you continue to try and defend them.... why don't they just come here and defend themselves if they are so good and correct? You obviously are able to speak to them at the moment since you know they are such "great players" *cough cough*

Great job digging up the post fro 7 months ago Dreadfoot. I wish I could dig some up from a year ago, but alas, they are long gone, back when Iltuk already had a "wonderful" reputation form the bullshit he caused in the Independent Raiders. Let's be clear on something though, all this cash and master spells Iltuk and Modesty placed in the Blackguard bank were not his. Don't forget Idrovo.. he was raid leader, so no trade items not used by current raid force, master spells not needed etc he looted, then put in the bank. Does this make them his? I think not, they are the raid/guilds. When Blackguard first started raiding on their own, it was becasue they (though it was really Iltuk's doing) were only able to do so because the alliance helped build his toon with first loot option for several months preceeding that (8-10 months, not precisely sure). I was once an officer in the IR, but one day Iltuk came along and decided he had enough members to raid on their own, and disbanded it on the spot. Deleted the posts on the GP web page. Kicked all the people who were on it. Milek had been working on a new site, which was just about ready, and when it was, end of IR with no notification to the half a dozen other guilds in it.

Now for the loot and greedy part, IR was in process of going DKP instead of an open roll system. With no notification, Iltuk decided to tell all on a raid (Lyceum if I recall) at the end that everything looted would be put into the "DKP Bank", which, of course was the Blackguard bank. For the next two weeks or so, people that did not leave immediately begain to earn some points to then spend on said items, which were never clearly listed to the non BG members, and then blam, site gone. As a result, several raids worth of items were then in the Blackguard bank to start off Iltuks little cache to use to entice several newer BG recruits to join, while the allianc emembers were just screwed out of their time. (This was in Nov of 06, aroudn 4 months previous to Dreadfoot's log). I was finally able to corner him after a week or so, hsi reason given was similar to what he tol dDreadfoot of l;eavin gBlackguard. Too much stress to lead an alliance, time to find another place to raid since no one listened to him or jumped off an island in KoS because he thought they might kill something if they landed on the mob just right.

This is all in the past, and is over, I am simply adding a little fuel to the fire as an example of the way they will use anyone that is suckered into it at their convienence. When Iltuk first started taking all the loot, I posted in the officer forums, asking why, and to explain himself, his excuse was "I have a language barrier I cannot explain"... but posted a page long essay anyway. when I picked it apart point by point (much like I did Oxnarde a few months ago on this site, he still my #1 Retard King vote) Modesty, usually the "passive officer" that no one even knew had access to the officer forums arranged to have me removed from officer so I could no even respond, without council vote which the alliance was built upon composing of leaders/officers in the participating guilds.

They are extremely manipulative, and greedy. If you choose to group/guild/raid with them, I'd be careful not to give them much if any control, and well, if you think they are good players, well, time for you to start reading the class forums to get a clue as well, or perhaps make a big pot of coffee as you will surely need it.

Some like to be famous for being President, a rock star, actor... these two found an easier way and get known for being among the largest assholes ever to populate the Nektulos/Lavastorm server. Grats. Now it appears they are spreading their reputaion on Splitpaw... sorry guys, but hey, better you than us
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