Gangtrang - Runnyeye/Barren Sky/Harla-Dar

Edwin Ahe · 10-23-2007, 01:23 PM

Ok. Today i post one of most retarded things about eq2 game-mechanics, this was originaly posted by Gangtrang at russian community forums, after that he was considered 100% pure retard by allmost everybody. I think some people from RE still remember this necro 8)

Original post is in Russian, and i highly doubt that Gangtrang know more that 1 word in English (so we can`t expect him to show up here).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gangtrang

MT

Guardian Paladin Bruser Pet(m1 all AA,m1 buffs, 8-9 healers and max avoidance group)

Why pet? Because we got mob with 10% crit chance (for 15k) in t7 zones, any other MT will die, pet will not.

MA

ShadowKnight Berserker (i forgot a monk, but it`s not an issue `cause they can`t be MA)

DPS

(from highest to lowest)

Necromancer
Ranger
Conjurer
Wizard
Warlock
Fury
(brigands, swashbucklers and assasins can do averange DPS too, but only if player is very skilled)

Interrupt

(everybody knows who are "interupt classes", so I`ll just list them)

Swashbuckler
Brigand
Dirge
Monk
Bruiser

Mezz

Coercer
Illussionis
troubadour (single-target)

Healers

Templar
Inquisitor
Warden
(This are best healer, and no other way)

With "heal HO" this classes can do most healing with less mana spent

Extra healers

Fury (fast healing with lot`s of mana consumed)

Extra ward

Defiler
Mystic
Paladin

Debuff

Dirge
Defiler
Necromancer

Pull

Pet
Monk
Bruiser
Berserker
Ranger

Manaregen

Dirge
Coercer
troubadour
Illussionis
Necromancer
Conjurer
Wizard

Learn 2 play, and maybe you`ll learn.

This is not complete post (~90% some things I can`t translate), and there are a great thread about it, but it`s kida long (~50 pages)

I hope you enjoy this

Have a good time

Yerni Smith · 10-23-2007, 03:22 PM

yup. There's alot of wrong in that post..

The one that strikes me the most "wrong" would be the debuffs part. Now call me crazy, but shit I think mystics should be there before Defilers. When Malignancy actually decreases stats by a % then yes we were up there, but that's not the case anymore. and what no inquisitor? fuck imo they one of the top Debuffers out there.

Tashani · 10-23-2007, 03:50 PM

Yeh I remember this back in my Xanadu days on Runnyeye - this guy is 100% pure fucking tool. I R INTERRUPT CLASS!!! hehe that one always made me laugh :D

The thread you translated is a couple of years old now I believe, I first seen it thanks to Amnepoh.

Gangtrang is a legend among the longer standing players of Runneyeye for being just that - an idiot that doesn't know shit

And for the Xanadians, Gangtangs app:

Where do you live? Clefts Of Rujark

pmsl.

Camphor · 10-23-2007, 05:21 PM

Hmmm were to start, dps list sounds about right, let me say first off i cant really get 100% out of what he is saying so maybe he has a point and his grammer is hiding it, but lets continue.
Necromancer
Ranger
Conjurer
Wizard
Warlock
Fury
(brigands, swashbucklers and assasins can do averange DPS too, but only if player is very skilled)

maybe this is just his guild but he is seriously messed up if this is what he thinks everyone elses looks like. (fury i mean wtf?)

necromacer, ok
conj ok
wizard, that deserves the spot
warlock, see above
fury, now yes furys can parse pretty nicely but NO WAY they should be outdoing say an assasin or even a brig swashie, i have seen repetitive 3k parses from assasins and 2.5s on a fairly constant basis for swashies/brigs but really come on fury i dont see it.

Templar
Inquisitor
Warden
(This are best healer, and no other way)

cant say i understand this not sure if that botton comment is relating to wardens only (crack head if so)
\Extra ward

Defiler
Mystic
Paladin

ill leave this alone, only becuase i dont speak moron. not really sure why it says extra ward concidering these are for the most part the only classes who can ward, and if paladin gets a spot for his "Wards" i suggest you find a better paladin.

Debuff

Dirge
Defiler
Necromancer

no brig? hmm

Vaanir · 10-23-2007, 05:41 PM

This thread delivers?

And yeah Cheetanta, Amnepoh and Shamaxaon translated that post quite a while back, great to see it again hehe.

Vaanir · 10-23-2007, 05:44 PM

More i found from old post on our forums:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gangtrang

"All resist formulas are physics, I even drew dependancy graph yesterday to be 100% sure. And the whole concept of step of point is rather physics than mathematics.Now I surely know how disruption and subjugation work, I just wanted to test Whop yesterday"

** (Gangtrang never told anyone what the step of point is even after he was begged to=)

** After announcing that Rogues are interrupt class, Matroskin protested by posting that swashbucklers have good DPS peaked at 1400 and great debuffs. Gangtrang replied:

"Do not mix up Alpha DPS with Constant DPS on 62+ mobs. Swash cannot have constant DPS, if I make DD pet combos it will be not your pitiful 1400 but 3500-400 DPS.... now think, are you DPS or you arent"

** And about how to use shields in game

"Mobs hit more from side than from front, and even more from back. Thats how the shield works. I suspect that the area of the shield is taken into account, although I cannot prove it with facts and figures. And I am surprised why people started yelling at me when I said that Yoru's girdle (**FBSS) increases magic damage"

Vaanir · 10-23-2007, 05:49 PM

Whole post of what the OP had:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gangtrang

Post 1 (before KOS)

Hello my dears

For people who have grinded their chars to lvl 60 to not ask stupid questions about their classes, and for everyone to know why you are needed on raids, I have made this topic:

Ok tanks 1st (thats 1st and the most important aspect of raid)

Tank classes: Guard Pal Bers Necro (M1 pet M1 pet buffs Subjugation 340+)
All other classes cannot tank (please dont bring an example of 55 x 2 epics, every noob can tank them with 4 healers)
DD classes: Ranger Assassin Wizard Warlock Necro (there are no other classes in game that can deal 20K+ damage in 1 min)
Interrupt classes: Brig Swash Monk Bruiser (they could say what do you mean we are DD classes, ok guys, you are as far from being a DD class as Sochi is far from Laptev sea, you arent DD and deal with it)
Healer classes: all priests but fury (fury is special, putting one hand on beloved woman's breast and hastily looking for a condom with other, ill tell you that fury better damages than heals)
Mezz classes: Illus Coercer (I think its obvious for everyone, but just in case)
Debuff classes: Defiler Necro Dirge (if someone gonna start crying what the hell I can debuff too, I will tell you no you cant, for example a Necro debuffs mob for 260 stats 4000 resists and does alot of other shit)
Mana Invoker classes: Illus Coercer Troubador Dirge

And last thing: theres no such thing as buffer class in EQ, but Ill tell you about this later

Post 2 (after KOS)

Hello my dears, finally I decided to continue my old topic, as always, putting one hand on beloved woman's breast and hastily looking for a condom with other

You will be surprised but situation did change after KOS, for a little bit.

Lets start from... someone thought its gonna be Necros but no, tanks 1st.

MT

Guard Pal Bruiser Necro Pet(M1 all AA buffs M1 8-9 healers in raid max avoidance group)

Let me explain why Pet: in T7 zones, there are mobs with 10% chance for 15K critical hit, every MT except necro pet will die after that hit, and pet wont.

MA

SK Bers (forgot monk but I hope monks will forgive me, they are too weak for MA)

DPS

(in decreasing order)

Necr
Ranger
Conj
Wizard
Warlock
Fury
(brig swash and assassin can dps not very bad almost on every mob, as well as monk and bruiser, but they need work hard for that)

And remember DPS is a char that can deal damage on every mob, and not just a mob that is weak against you.

Interrupt

(everyone knows whats an interrupt class I hope, so I wont explain it again, instead ill just list)

Swash
Brig
Dirge
Monk
Bruiser

Mezz

Coer
Illus
Troub(single targets)

Healers

Templar
Inquiz
Warden

(these are the most pure healer classes, and thats it)

When doing healing HOs these clases heal for most spending less mana

Extra healers

Fury (fastest heal for most mana spent per 1 healed HP)

Extra ward

Defiler
Mystic
Pal

Debuff

Dirge
Defiler
Necro

(can add swash and brig here but with a note: if they manage to)

Pullers

(I found out that without this category the list wont be complete)

Pet (necro preferred, so he FDs when needed)
Monk
Bruiser
Bers
Ranger

Manaregen

Dirge
Coer
Trub
Illus
Necr
Conj
Wiz
(all those classes can be manaregen, more or less)

And one last thing, this classification only works for players who wisely distribute their AAs (if you dont, you should not read this)

Learn to play, maybe one day you'll finally learn.

Vaanir · 10-23-2007, 05:49 PM

Classic.

Edwin Ahe · 10-23-2007, 06:08 PM

Thanks for that addition m8 8) i`m just too lazy to translate it all

Anyway, I think we will see something like this after RoK release.

And to any1 reading this thread: don`t try to use your logic or common sense

Camphor · 10-23-2007, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by Gangtrang
Post 1 (before KOS)

Hello my dears

For people who have grinded their chars to lvl 60 to not ask stupid questions about their classes, and for everyone to know why you are needed on raids, I have made this topic:

Ok tanks 1st (thats 1st and the most important aspect of raid)

Tank classes: Guard Pal Bers Necro (M1 pet M1 pet buffs Subjugation 340+) (a necro cannot tank with a pet i know this iv seen them try put your tank pet against an epic and watch as their puny agroo gets everyone wiped off the face of norrath {jeez im bored}
All other classes cannot tank (please dont bring an example of 55 x 2 epics, every noob can tank them with 4 healers)
DD classes: Ranger Assassin Wizard Warlock Necro (there are no other classes in game that can deal 20K+ damage in 1 min) {well this is way out dated aoe i did 94000 in 1:07 in hof zone wide 1700 dps and im not a freaken dps class even at 60 im sure i could have pulled atleast 20k)
Interrupt classes: Brig Swash Monk Bruiser (they could say what do you mean we are DD classes, ok guys, you are as far from being a DD class as Sochi is far from Laptev sea, you arent DD and deal with it)(not even worth it )
Healer classes: all priests but fury (fury is special, putting one hand on beloved woman's breast and hastily looking for a condom with other, ill tell you that fury better damages than heals)(once again 80% bs atleast hes down 20%!)
Mezz classes: Illus Coercer (I think its obvious for everyone, but just in case)
Debuff classes: Defiler Necro Dirge (if someone gonna start crying what the hell I can debuff too, I will tell you no you cant, for example a Necro debuffs mob for 260 stats 4000 resists and does alot of other shit) (i wouldent note dispatch but he misses brigs again in his after kos thing too so lets continue)
Mana Invoker classes: Illus Coercer Troubador Dirge

And last thing: theres no such thing as buffer class in EQ, but Ill tell you about this later

sorry not even really worth pointing it out as im sure this is way super old but im just bored