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Old 10-10-2006, 05:51 PM  
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ill send you the address in a pm i dont think mods like our site ><
*edit some dude from butcherblock posted it in there so go take credit


The bold part is the issue; credit had already been properly given. Calling someone a plagiarist is an insult. You insulted him, first, without reason before he ever poked his nose in that thread.
From that sentence alone I read it as more she's looking out for a friend vs. intending to insult Hen. I'm assuming she doesn't really know him bar this encounter, so at that point, there's nothing to insult.

I.E. it could have been anywhere on the web & she'd have said: "your work is here, so & so posted it, go take credit" - this gesture is wide open to interpretation. It could be "he's stealing your work" OR it could be, "they don't know who originally wrote this, go take a bow."

Where things seem to go wrong is where the misunderstanding/goof goes unclarified or unforgiven. (sorry to get all fluffy and fabric softener on a flames forum) Whether or not he did or didn't credit the original writer when he first posted, he was quick to remedy the mistake.

Say he'd posted it and wasn't corrected in the thread, but people all posted saying "wow that's great man" and he realized "oh shit, they think I wrote it" and edited it appropriately. Would it be worth giving the benefit of the doubt, then?

On the other side, if it was Hen's post c&p'd somewhere and I said "hey, Hen, your story on X is on Y forum, go take credit" would it be an attack on the poster, or a heads up to the writer/friend?

The wrestling match has gone on in 3 threads - the eq2forums, another thread here, and now this thread is started. I tend to think yeah, it's overkill & posting this thread was a. leaping to conclusions and b. going too far.

But, at the same time, I think stepping down and making peace/apologies when you've misfired and are backed into a corner is a incredibly tough thing to do. I'm a misfiring maniac and I've had to eat my ego so many times on forums I can't even count. It felt like being squashed flat everytime I had to do it - and I often had to do it while still pissed off. :\

The inclination, when your back is against a wall, is always to keep going even if you know it's a losing battle. It seems to me flameouts on forums generally tend to die because people just get tired, not because one gives way and says "you may be right, I f'd up." Giving ground is nearly impossible to do when everything in you is saying "you're gonna get eaten alive."


Edited to rephrase something.
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Old 10-10-2006, 05:57 PM  
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Old 10-10-2006, 05:59 PM  
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From that sentence alone I read it as more she's looking out for a friend vs. intending to insult Hen. I'm assuming she doesn't really know him bar this encounter, so at that point, there's nothing to insult.

I.E. it could have been anywhere on the web & she'd have said: "your work is here, so & so posted it, go take credit" - this gesture is wide open to interpretation. It could be "he's stealing your work" OR it could be, "they don't know who originally wrote this, go take a bow."
I'd agree with you Ninibi, if she hadn't opened this thread with "Not only did he copy and paste someone elses material and then have a hissy fit when people stated it wasnt his work..." At the point when she started this thread, she was still accusing him of plagiarism. To me, that makes her intentions relatively clear; but hell, I even gave her the benefit of the doubt and askedher to just admit it was a bit too vague and open to interpretation, and she's still too stubborn to admit it.

I gave her an easy out (even though I don't believe the comment was innocuous), a way to save face, but she's just too goddamn stubborn to do it.

**edit** OMGOMG EDITED!! Whatever could I have changed? Was it in response to a later post? Who actually DID shoot J.R.?
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Old 10-10-2006, 06:04 PM  
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I'd agree with you Ninibi, if she hadn't opened this thread with "Not only did he copy and paste someone elses material and then have a hissy fit when people stated it wasnt his work..." At the point when she started this thread, she was still accusing him of plagiarism. To me, that makes her intentions relatively clear; but hell, I even gave her the benefit of the doubt and askedher to just admit it was a bit too vague and open to interpretation, and she's still too stubborn to admit it.

I gave her an easy out (even though I don't believe the comment was innocuous), a way to save face, but she's just too goddamn stubborn to do it.

**edit** OMGOMG EDITED!! Whatever could I have changed? Was it in response to a later post? Who actually DID shoot J.R.?
Yeah, Nin, if you saw this play out in real time you would see that this thread was pretty spiteful. It's funny to watch her squirm, though, imo.
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Old 10-10-2006, 06:25 PM  
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LOL GP and... d'oh!
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Old 10-10-2006, 06:43 PM  
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LOL should be a good learning experience. No need for martyrdom though, just apologize and be done with it.
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Old 10-10-2006, 06:48 PM  
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Please, for the love of god, shut the hell up Grrrl. You keep walking all over yourself, if you didn't want to start shit you wouldn't have started a rate-a-retard thread. Why don't you just drop it and admit you fucked up? He obviously gave credit where it was due before you even had a clue the thread existed in all likelihood. (You can say that you saw it instantly on iSpy but I still think you are full of shit. Who sits there watching for new replies and posts?) For fuck sakes, look at the timestamps, its 2 minutes. Yes, you read that right, TWO MINUTES. 2 minutes is so meaningless in this situation that he might as well have intially given credit where it was due, its essentially the exact same thing.

Is THAT clear enough for you? Or do 10 more people need to come to this thread and laugh at you for you to open your damn eyes?
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Old 10-10-2006, 10:13 PM  
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i did'nt open this thread because of him copying here it was for him overreacting to my vagueness.. i did apologize but i gaurantee hen thinks he did nothing wrong here which imo is bs.
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Old 10-10-2006, 10:16 PM  
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Nah, Hen's cool...flame denied.
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