Arigoth/Sehki/Ainien Bazaar and Lucan D'Lere

Crabbok · 01-13-2008, 02:56 PM

To say that Ainien is a guild Bank Robber would get the point across, but wouldn't fully illustrate his retardation. Ainien is a guy who, is a blatant liar, thief, and overall fraud. He fucked Ethereal Legacy over, and he currently has a bunch of alts on Lucan D'lere, so watch out LDL folks!

He was co-leading EL with Phal for awhile. EL was doing pretty good. For awhile we were struggling with Venril Sathir, and one night Ainien got really pissed, said a few nasty things about Phal in group chat (trying to blame our failure on her), and ninja logged off for the night. 2 Pulls later we kill VS for the first time, and get alot of peopel flagged for Leviathan.

Ainien logs back on the next day, assuming that we wouldn't have killed VS, only to find that we did, and he is one of teh few that arenot flagged for leviathan and eventually Veeshan's Peak. He's so upset about this he tells Phal that he's going to quit playing. She realized that he was just upset and manages to talk him out of quitting. So things continue as usual.

Friday night, We do raids, getting ready for saturday which we plan to flag the rest of our folks for VS. Everything seems fine. I wake up Saturday to find out that Ainien had overnight decided that he thought our guild was too casual, and ninja booted Phal, the other guild leader in her sleep. He also booted her friends and family from the guild. Alot of people were pissed about this and left. He booted a few more people and in the morning I told him it was bullshit. He then booted me.

SO he had effectively just lost more than half of his raid force in a flash because he wanted to be more hardcore. Then he took the guild bank (about 740 plat at the time). He then logged off.

So Kalidon Logs on, who was also made leader by sehki. Kalidon eventually realizes that this was not right, in fact it's basicly a repeat of what happened to him so long ago. He demotes Ainien, invites me back, and quits guild. I'm glad he was able to fix things, though Ainien still had the guild bank. I then reinivted everyone else, and made Phal the sole leader, so we don't have this problem again with ninja booting.

Early Sunday morning (Around 4:14 AM), Ainien logs on, notices that he's been demoted, yet still in guild so hopefully he would answer for his crimes (and everyone woudl see him log on). He says nothing. a minute later he, and the friends he had in the guild all de-guild. He has not been heard from again.

He did however, forget to block alts on one of his accounts for eq2players. Here is the current list of his alts.

Warning folks. He was even caught Giving himself DKP credit for raids which he did not attend, like teh VS raid mentioned above. It started a big fight between Phal and himself.

Lucan D'Lere people, watch out for him.

LFG · 01-13-2008, 03:01 PM

I rated this one a 5 based on the passion, excellence in flaming, quality of detail, and screenshots.

Fisstafury · 01-13-2008, 05:49 PM

move this to carebear corner, sticky it, and retitle it "how NOT to end up here" :D

Fuck thieves.

Crabbok · 01-13-2008, 06:12 PM

We have a petition in on it. I seriously doubt GM's will do anything about a guild bank theif though. I expect some remark of "Well you shouldn't have given him permission to the guild bank" or some shit like that.

Rinion · 01-13-2008, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Crabbok

We have a petition in on it. I seriously doubt GM's will do anything about a guild bank theif though. I expect some remark of "Well you shouldn't have given him permission to the guild bank" or some shit like that.

cant believe this crab, im actually on flames on a week end!

that plat equates to real money on our server. That should go for something...

Thats roughly $1400 taken.

Ralalron · 01-14-2008, 12:42 PM

I must say the flip around from him thinking he was sole leader, booting any opposers to logging back into being demoted and everyone back in the guild is great :P Anyways, sorry to hear about the GB. Ainien gets the Royal Doosh Award

Phalphoto · 01-14-2008, 01:56 PM

Petition response:

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Response (GM Kimbial) 01/14/2008 08:47 AM
Greetings Phal,

This is Senior Game Master Kimbial. I have reviewed your petition regarding an incident with the player named Arigoth and Ethereal Legacy. What occurred is considered an internal guild matter and Customer Service will not be able to assist with the recovery of any coin or items taken by a then guild leader. However, Arigoth is still under investigation for section 16.8 of the Reimbursement Policy. I regret that we cannot share with you the results of the investigation but I assure you that we will take any actions appropriate to the situation. Here is a link to the Reimbursement Policy should you care to review it:
Knowledge Base

We do regret the inconvenience that Ethereal Legacy is facing at this time. If there is anything else we can try to assist you with, please let us know.

Safe journeys,

Senior Game Master Kimbial
EverQuest II Customer Service
Sony Online Entertainment, LLC

LFG · 01-14-2008, 02:19 PM

IInteresting PM from GM Kimbial - this is the reimbursement policy text she referenced:

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16.4 All Items or Coin placed in or removed from a Guild Bank, either intentionally or inadvertently, are considered official trades as per Section 7 of this policy and will not be reimbursed by Customer Service Staff. Note: this includes Items or Coin which may have been placed into a Guild Bank vault from which you do not have permission to make withdrawals.
16.5 Customer Service Staff will not arbitrate disputes between guild members and guild leadership regarding Items or Coin placed in or removed from a Guild Bank.
16.5.1 Therefore, we would strongly recommend that you not deposit any Items or Coin that you wish to retain control of into a Guild Bank.
16.6 If a guild disbands, all Items or Coin left in the Guild Bank will be destroyed and will not be reimbursed.
16.7 Items or Coin missing from a Guild Bank due to a verifiable bug may be reimbursed at the discretion of the CSR after a Customer Service investigation.
16.8 While granting access permission levels to the guild bank is the responsibility of the guild leadership and done at their own risk, there may be instances where customers who have been granted access to a guild bank may attempt to harass or disrupt a guild by removing items/coin with malicious intent or for their own personal gain. As per section 16.4 and 16.5, items/coin removed in these circumstances will not be reimbursed to the guild. However, after a Customer Service investigation, disciplinary action may be taken on any account that abuses the guild bank system. Disciplinary action will be in accordance with our harassment and disruption policies outlined in the Rules of Conduct and Play Nice Policies and may include but is not limited to, account warning, suspension, and permanent cancellation.

What she is saying, in total, is that you will not be reimbursed for the theft, but that they can and may delete the coin from the thief's account, and/or also suspend or ban the thief's account based on the theft.

So it sounds like y'all are fucked about getting your coin back, but that the person who stole your shit may get fucked harder by losing their account in addition to the coin they stole.

Crabbok · 01-14-2008, 02:46 PM

Sounds like a loose loose situation. The good part is that we can make that plat back in a week or two. He will have lost at least 1 or his accounts with at least 1 lvl 80 toon on it. That'll take significantly longer than a week to recover.

The only thing is, if he's reading this, he'll probably hurry up and throw it on station exchange, hoping to sell before the ban.

Rinion · 01-14-2008, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LFG

IInteresting PM from GM Kimbial - this is the reimbursement policy text she referenced:

What she is saying, in total, is that you will not be reimbursed for the theft, but that they can and may delete the coin from the thief's account, and/or also suspend or ban the thief's account based on the theft.

So it sounds like y'all are fucked about getting your coin back, but that the person who stole your shit may get fucked harder by losing their account in addition to the coin they stole.

Since Bazaar is a "special rule set server" or w/e we should actually have special rules. Scamming coin on this server is the same as scamming coin in real life and it should be treated and enforced as such.

But to be honest i say fuck it, let him have it as a going away present.

740p is small fries in the long run. guess he should of waited till just before a guild split to do it =p But I'm guessing this was more impulsive then planned

P.S. wont mater if he loses his accounts TBH, I'm sure he will have made plenty of money by then selling toons and coin from bazaar before they ever get around to an investigation.