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Old 01-23-2008, 11:51 AM  
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Kind of a derailment, but...

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STFU Manratten, you of all people are the most coniving sniveling worthelss pos, and you have done some very mean and revengeful things in your own time on Mistmoore and to sit there and not understand how in the heat of the moment Sevn was mad and wanted to lash back? Whatever dude. Least Unlike you he has the decency to feel bad about his actions and return them UNLIKE your sorry ass who never thinks he does anything wrong as long as your egotistical ass is happy.
What in the world are you talking about? I know of zero mean and revengeful things I have done, laugh. I'll be more than glad to go to bat for any of my actions, whatever in the world you think they are. I think about the "meanest" thing I have ever done as raid leader was bump needed classes up over people who signed up before them. I don't know if you were part of that, but god I hope so. I would LOVE to have that argument here on these boards.

As for me being egotistical, sure. I mean, sheesh, I am freaking Manratten.
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Old 01-23-2008, 11:54 AM  
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Sven is an SK on Mistmoore and is a totally different person and has nothing to do with any of this he is an alt.
While that may be factually true, both of those names have posted here as the same person. So the dude is either schitzo, posting from multiple accts, or we have a fake. Thanks for the EQ2Players update tho.
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Old 01-23-2008, 12:04 PM  
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While that may be factually true, both of those names have posted here as the same person. So the dude is either schitzo, posting from multiple accts, or we have a fake. Thanks for the EQ2Players update tho.
It would probably be pretty easy for LFG to confirm/deny with a quick peek at the IP.
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Old 01-23-2008, 12:22 PM  
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although its nice to know our Service Members weather its a game or not like to steal.which brings me to the part that i think your a fuck up for is the part that you stole from the guild bank before you left. how do i know that snowflakk was part of this ... because i got the wuoshi scales back form one of the guild leaders of the guild that snowflakk was in at the time. and now they are both in another guild.

Did we ever get anything else back other than the scales nope how did we get the scales back snow was stupid enough to put them up on the broker.

Was it a shit load that the took from the bank couple masters some plat and a couple other small items no it wasnt. but the fact that you stole the items not just from me but everyone else in the guild thats the fucked up part.

And you have admitted in this thread that your a Thief.
I'm sorry, but after finding out who you really were, I want to see evidence of these alligations before you decide to accuse someone of something again holmes. Had I known that it was Staine in the first place, I wouldn't have paid a single bit of attention to this thread -_- Stupid me for not keeping up with ppl's alts >_< So, man up with some evidence of everything that was stolen, or STFU!!!
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Old 01-23-2008, 12:50 PM  
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Wait wait wait wait

you mean to tell me you were there Tool and you know for a fact snowflakk stole that account? ARE you fucking stupid ROFL
No but I can do simple fucking math. sven said he did not know soull and soull said he got the account from snowflakk, so obviously snow was the one who originally stole it.

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Did you not read sevn's post saying that he and snow were friends, and still are close friends? WHY would they still be friends if snowflakk stole that account ROFL, and WHY the FUCK are you commenting on stuff just cause you like to see your name on here when you have no FUCKING clue what you are talking about!
Because the cocksucker stole from me for something snowflak and soull did. Maybe I didn't make it clear that my main is in bloodlines.

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AND even if he had let the account be used for whatever purpose allowing soullstalker to even get access to that account Snow, Soull, and Sevn did nothing wrong, cept for breaking the eula
Fixed that for ya

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Hoss , I said of no relevance or consequence.5-6 plat was the total. PLEASE post any screenshots you have. Lyger, I apologize to call you out here.Aren't you part of the leadership of Bloodlines of the Fallen?
I won't make any further accusations unless and until i find a screenshot. But there were other things missing. Basically everything of value was missing. Which wasn't much considering we were a lvl 20ish guild. But stealing is stealing. Who knows, maybe soull took the rest of it and blamed it on you. Guess what, since you're an admitted thief, you get that shit pinned on you too.

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Soull refused to give Sevn back to Snow.Sorry, stealing doesn't make stealing ok .A bag of burning dog shit on his door step would have been better.No witness's , in and out, and revenge.Unfortunately on his info that he left in my account , said Fargo he lived in Fargo.Or the woman's credit card that was on there said.It's fucking cold in Fargo right now. And in general North Dakota sucks.


So you are part of Soull's guild as well Hoss?
Yeah my mains name is Tool. Can't disagree with you about ND sucking, but thats not my problem.

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I am no thief - only thing i had to do with this is i gave account info to what i thought was a friend 2 years ago... and its just been recoverd by its rightful owner. My best friend sevn.. There where others whom knew about this when it all happen 2 years ago.
You gave the account info. The info was given to you. Sorry, having trouble getting traction for soull stealing the account from sevn. If it was stolen (and this would be from sony's perspective because accounts are not suppsoed to be shared) then it was stolen twice when snow stole it from sevn and then soull stole it from snow. If it wasn't stolen the first time, then you can't say it was stolen the second time. I'm not saying soull is a saint, and I'm not saying he is completely innocent in whatever lover's quarrel you guys had, but of the 3 of you, in this case, he's the cleanest.

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OH and anyone notice that once the TRUTH started coming out Soullstalker aka Staine is speechless?
Yeah, he doesn't like to type. I've no doubt he will be back.

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Old 01-23-2008, 01:03 PM  
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Kind of a derailment, but...

What in the world are you talking about? I know of zero mean and revengeful things I have done, laugh. I'll be more than glad to go to bat for any of my actions, whatever in the world you think they are. I think about the "meanest" thing I have ever done as raid leader was bump needed classes up over people who signed up before them. I don't know if you were part of that, but god I hope so. I would LOVE to have that argument here on these boards.
I don't know why you would want to have that argument. I was your GL then and I told you what you did was wrong. You manipulated the rules to ... "Allow your brother and sister-in-law to attend a raid they had failed to sign up for in a timely manner at the expense of ally's from another guild" What you did was substitute a coercer for a troub for Vyemm when we were already tanking both mobs with one tank with no issues...

We know what the fall out from that was... LETS RECAP...

I left the game... you all eventually screwed Forgotten Knights (would you all like to discuss the box from Tarinax?)... Your dirty conniving's destroyed the alliance and Shadows and Dust... You couldn't continue to raid because you shot yourself in the foot and alienated our allies. So you brought what was left of the raid force to the co-op. You destroyed the co-op with your constant inane whining and greedy self righteous attitude...

The question is why didn't you make the jump to Bloodlines? Were you even invited?

Ultimately the reason Soullstalker decided to form his own raiding guild once again was because you alienated everyone. If anyone is to blame for the demise of Shadows and Dust and Sanctuary it is Manratten not Soullstalker. Who wants to hang out with a fricking greedy insolent little prick like that? That his sister in law was GL only made him more insufferable and is one of tthe main reasons I left SaD. Ask yourselves why when I came back to the game I joined Forgotten Knights (who according to the assholes [Imrandy, Tenderheart, Manratten just so there is no mistakes on who I blame] at SaD were the ones who screwed them over... but being arrogant little self righteous pricks THEY would think that) and have been happy ever since.

As far as this whole Sevn / Soullstalker / Snowflakk argument goes...
I can totally understand where all sides are coming from. Its a stupid argument 'cause all sides can feel justified and all sides made mistakes.

Stealing out of the guild bank is not justified because of the situation and since all things were returned I think we all agree upon that.

Furthermore, I will also speak in behalf of Soull 'cause despite why you may hate him in game... he helped a friend of mine in RL when this person had no other options... and for that I totally respect him. And who can blame Soull for continuing to strive towards making a great raiding guild? At least he's persistent and I am sure he will eventually succeed. Give him credit at least he was smart enough to ditch Manratten along the way.

However in the end if anyone needs to be rated a retard it's Manratten!! You win hands DOWN...
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Old 01-23-2008, 01:11 PM  
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Absolutely wonderful Mistmoore drama. Man, it's been a while. And it's actually pretty refreshing that it's not Impulse and Tribes going at it.

I really don't have much to say, other then Soull and Snowflakk have both given me a hand at various times with various things.

I've personally never been screwed by either party.
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Absolutely wonderful Mistmoore drama. Man, it's been a while. And it's actually pretty refreshing that it's not Impulse and Tribes going at it.
A-fucking-men!!! I've really gotten tired of hearing about fucking Impulse. -_- That's a different discussion for a different topic though :P So, for the aformentioned evidence from either party . . . .
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Old 01-23-2008, 02:14 PM  
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Awesome!!

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I don't know why you would want to have that argument. I was your GL then and I told you what you did was wrong. You manipulated the rules to ... "Allow your brother and sister-in-law to attend a raid they had failed to sign up for in a timely manner at the expense of ally's from another guild" What you did was substitute a coercer for a troub for Vyemm when we were already tanking both mobs with one tank with no issues...
First off, the raid this occurred this was for was Halls of Seeing, not Vyemm. We were certainly NOT having an easy time of the Bloodbeast, (since our alliance had actually never cleared HoS). We were having extreme power issues, and healer issues keeping the MT and others up on the fight. Any number of people can verify this. And, in essence, this is alot of the problem with you...you make decisions and arguments when you have almost no idea what the heck is going on.

Secondly, the coercer, Imrandy, came in for an assassin...Tool...who just so happens to be reading this thread. (And, my guess is, he'll remember this) Lifebringer, a warden, came in to replace a ranger. this troubadour thing being replaced never happend. Iciah, the troubadour, was never removed from the raid, he only was in a group not perfectly ideal for him because we had power problems for that group. So, an assassin and a ranger were moved down in priority to make room for a coercer (bring us up to ONE enchanter) and a warden (Bringing us up to ONE warden, and the 5th healer total). Keep in mind, I detailed exactly what I was doing, and explained this every step of the way. I also explained it was highly likely the people moved down would very likely be in the raid anyway, as people in the alliance seemed to show up about 75% of the time.

We know what the fall out from that was... LETS RECAP...

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I left the game... you all eventually screwed Forgotten Knights (would you all like to discuss the box from Tarinax?)...
I ABSOLUTELY would love to discuss the box from Tarinax!!

Here is what happened, for those not in the know. Our alliance killed Tarinax, for the first time. Right after the dragon died, we were fighting the adds that had spawned, and the chest had not been opened. The zone crashed. Darn it, it happens. So, it was like 3am, and Solindus filled out the petition to try and get the loot. There was no way of knowing how long it would take to get resolved, if ever. I, with the most amount of DKP of anyone in the raid, made it public that if the Breathe of the Destroyer was in the chest, I wanted it. If anything else dropped, I did NOT want it. I was the only person who made his claims known ahead of time.

Time passed, and people signed off, went to bed, whatever. (And remember, for those reading, we are all NOT in the same guild, but we did have a website) The GM got back to Solindus approx a day later, and agreed we defeated Tarin, and that were loot eligible. It was determined the Breathe was in the chest, and while I was signed off, the Breathe appeared in my inventory. yeah, me...charged myself the DKP for the item. Other crap dropped, pretty much all junk, that was transmuted by Lyger I believe. Remember, we don't have decades to decide this, it is a GM talking to Solindus and Lyger, and they have to make snap decisions on this....(and, feel lucky we got anything whatsoever) So, the rest of the stuff was just muted/trashed...including a Relic Silk hat, which they determined noone would want. They posted at that time what happened on the allaince website.

I know of nothing that could be done any different, or in any way anyone did anything untoward. I suppose we could have forced people to take crap loot, and A Relic Silk Hat is....crap loot. Solindis posted immediately what happened as we learned it, and he for some reason was castrated for doing that there, instead of having some intergalactic conversation.

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Your dirty conniving's destroyed the alliance and Shadows and Dust... You couldn't continue to raid because you shot yourself in the foot and alienated our allies. So you brought what was left of the raid force to the co-op. You destroyed the co-op with your constant inane whining and greedy self righteous attitude...
I know of no whining I have done. Is this like whining someone while soloing won a master and I should get it? Oh wait...that wasn't me. Who was that? Can't remember.

As for raiding with the coop, I was the first member slot granted. I joined the coop, personally, because our guild leader got mad and quit the game for some reason. Oh, wait...that was you. Our guild, while a good casual guild, was not raid capable, so I joined a coop that I would not have to deguild my current affiliation and still be able to raid. I then mentioned to my fellow guildmates a raiding option, for those who wanted to stay in the guild, and yet still be able to raid. Since our guild allaince raided, if ever, on Fri/Sat, and to Coop raided on M/W/TH...this seemed like a harmless idea.

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The question is why didn't you make the jump to Bloodlines? Were you even invited?
My guess is, the reason I was not invited was that it was clear I would not abandon my brother and gf in SnD, however, you'd have to ask Lyger and Soull the exact reason. I have raided with them since, at their invitation I might add, though I am still a member of SnD.

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Ultimately the reason Soullstalker decided to form his own raiding guild once again was because you alienated everyone.
I'm not sure I alieniated anyone, to be honest, except for possibly you.

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If anyone is to blame for the demise of Shadows and Dust and Sanctuary it is Manratten not Soullstalker.
I didn't realize SnD faced some demise. You realize I am njot an officer of SnD, never was. I don't have anything whatsoever to do with Sanctuary, but nothing else you says makes sense, might as well blame me for Sanctuary as well.

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Who wants to hang out with a fricking greedy insolent little prick like that?
Let's be clear...between the two of us, only one of us bought masters from the alliance with their own DKP gave them for free to the alliance, whomever asked. And...only one of us demanded a master from someone else that they got while soloing.

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That his sister in law was GL only made him more insufferable and is one of tthe main reasons I left SaD. Ask yourselves why when I came back to the game I joined Forgotten Knights (who according to the assholes [Imrandy, Tenderheart, Manratten just so there is no mistakes on who I blame] at SaD were the ones who screwed them over... but being arrogant little self righteous pricks THEY would think that) and have been happy ever since.
This is almost humorous. You have the gall to call Imrandy and Tenderheart righteous pricks, laugh. Tell you what, when they are made leaders of a guild, and they rage quit becuse they don't get their way over every little thing, you can call them what you want. But, the problem is...that was you. My brother and his wife are actually just flat out good people, in every sense of the word, and I think you are being very foolish and childish insulting them. But...do what you want.


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Give him credit at least he was smart enough to ditch Manratten along the way.

Hey Soull, you reading this?

See, my guess is, Bloodlines was created because people weren't showing dedication and commitment to the Coop. (And you'd be hard pressed to point that finger at me) But, perhaps it was created in order to stop my and my evil reign of error....
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