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Old 04-24-2008, 12:06 PM  
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This doesn't seem like a bug whatsoever, seems like a good idea to stop exploiting.

Get a group to enter a new SoH, kill one trash mob. Instance1
Tomorrow, dif group enters a dif SoH, kills one trash mob. Instance2
Next day..same thing...next day...same thing...next day...same thing. Instances 3-5.

Later on in day #5, raid goes into SoH#1, and clears it. Using this lockout timer the OP is suggesting to be fair...they can now enter SoH#2 tomorrow and clear it. And the next day, and the next day....

So...you weren't being penalized. He wasn't being unreasonable. His biggest 'fault' was not doing what you wanted.
The bug is this...

5 people zone into an existing instance with a raid force.

3 of them get the timer from the instance. 3 day reset
2 of them get a new timer. 5 day reset

1 of the 2 get a GM to reset the timer.. Saying its a bug.

1 of the 2 gets a GM that says its working as intended and wont reset it.


So the first 3 CAN NOT reset the zone everyday. Trash mobs and named set your timer.

Just not knowing wtf timer your gonna get is the bitch of the whole thing.
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Old 04-24-2008, 12:17 PM  
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The bug is this...

5 people zone into an existing instance with a raid force.

3 of them get the timer from the instance. 3 day reset
2 of them get a new timer. 5 day reset

1 of the 2 get a GM to reset the timer.. Saying its a bug.

1 of the 2 gets a GM that says its working as intended and wont reset it.


So the first 3 CAN NOT reset the zone everyday. Trash mobs and named set your timer.

Just not knowing wtf timer your gonna get is the bitch of the whole thing.
I explained how it works, the real problem isn't knowing what timer you're going to get, but how retarded you are to not know what timer you're going to get.

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You go in with some shitty pickup to SoH on the 1st, they clear some trash, wipe to named, and give up. A 2nd/better pickup raid goes into SoH on the 3rd, they clear trash take a break, then they go it again, and this time you join them and it is the 6th. So your lockout has expired(5 day lock, 9 day persistence) so you zone in. Now, which timer do you get? To prevent exploiting you get a brand new 5 day lockout, instead of taking over with the remaining 2 day lockout that somebody who hadn't been locked to the instance would have gotten.
Read that, that is EXACTLY how the lockout timers work, period.
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So, in essence, the real problem is not knowing which GM you are going to get - the one who doesn't know how the timers work and will reset it for you, or the asshole who knows how timers work and won't reset it for you.
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Old 04-24-2008, 01:03 PM  
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I explained how it works, the real problem isn't knowing what timer you're going to get, but how retarded you are to not know what timer you're going to get.



Read that, that is EXACTLY how the lockout timers work, period.
lol WTF man.. If that is EXACTLY how they work.. Then why the fuck did it give 3 people one timer and 2 another timer and have 1 GM say its a bug and another say its not.
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Old 04-24-2008, 02:28 PM  
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Old 04-24-2008, 03:23 PM  
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The one with Mr. Smokestoomuch is good too.
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Old 04-24-2008, 06:08 PM  
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With the new built-in chat system, I hope that we'll be able to verbally chat to CS Reps. There is something about chat text that makes it hard to see if they are really trying to be a smart ass.
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Old 04-24-2008, 09:54 PM  
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With the new built-in chat system, I hope that we'll be able to verbally chat to CS Reps. There is something about chat text that makes it hard to see if they are really trying to be a smart ass.

Oh, they're all trying to be smart asses, some of them are just more successful at it.
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Old 04-25-2008, 01:00 AM  
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If I understood the OP correctly, he was locked to an instance that didn't exist, because it had expired. he probably would have been happy to go into the old instance and try whatever names were left again. Thats pretty fucked up. Being locked to a non-existant instance is basically like the original lockout timers, which they made a decision to go away from.

But, the OP was also a dick to the GM which is probably why he refused to budge. When you get a ticket for rolling through a stop sign, is that how you try to talk the cop out of writing you?

But, i woulda also complained to his boss about freezing me in place. That's a supremely stupid thing to do. Especially when you are 'helping' them, or trying to deliver the message that they are not being punished.


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Old 04-25-2008, 04:00 AM  
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I have delt with the man in some petitions, id call him a douche bag but that would be insulting the douche a women uses in her vagina!
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