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Originally Posted by RadarX
If anybody can find his posts, I'd like to see them again.
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This is the main one I copied my comments from above.
http://www.guildportal.com/Guild.asp...opicID=3248668
I can appreciate if you don't understand why hardcore raiders and other like us felt forced away from eq2players.com. Many of us have explained this many times. This is a summary of how I perceive the situation:
1. A longstanding general rumor and suspicion that the mods on eq2players.com were some of the most hardcore NGD posters. It seems to me that at least half of the people listed in the first post of this thread are EQ2 friends who often posted in support of each other within the NGD section.
2. A longstanding belief among non-NGD posters that unless you were a regular in the NGD forum, you really couldn't post there, because when you tried, you got harrassed and spam-bumped away by NGD regulars, many of whom were also mods.
3. A longstanding belief that NGD posters received privileges that other posters on eq2players.com did not qualify for. You can't deny this. Many of the NGD posters had little perks like custom titles with unique colors. None of the people who posted as regulars elsewhere got benefits like that. This looked to us like pure favoritism, and extremely unfair.
4. A longstanding belief that NGD was "above the law", that it didn't have to live by the same rules as the rest of eq2players.com, and that the NGD regulars created and enforced their own arbitrary laws as mods against non-NGD posters. What I'm saying is that it definitely felt like NGD regulars were acting as mods and telling other people they could not do the things that those same mods were themselves doing as NGD posters within NGD.
5. A longstanding belief that none of the mods whom the non-NGD community despised most had any clue about raiding and the issues important to raiders, and that many of them didn't even play EQ2 frequently enough to have a level capped character. I'm sorry to put it this bluntly, but in the more raider oriented forums such as Items and Equipment, Combat Encounters, and Zones and Populations, It felt like kindergarten teachers were trying to enforce rules of conduct against professionals. In posts on serious raiding topics, we weren't permitted to tell posters who had no clue what they were talking exactly why that was. So players who had never played a character past level 30 were permitted to give extreme opinions on matters that affected raiders, but raiders couldn't laugh at them and tell them to shut the hell up because they had no clue what they were talking about. The mods didn't seem to understand raiding issues or even to be interested in them, yet they were telling us what we could and could not discuss about raiding issues. This was beyond frustrating and stupid to us.
If the people listed in the first post of this thread are mods as claimed, I guess I'm wondering why some of the most frequent posters and opinionated people on eq2players.com were given the right to make enforcement decisions against the rest of the player base. I gotta agree with some of the early things I've read in this post about that being a conflict of interest. If those people are mods, you can go through their player and mod posting history on eq2players.com and find examples where they were arguing against someone in a post and then logged onto their mod account to chastise and moderate the person they were arguing against. Does anyone believe that is impartial or fair? It also seems clear that if the people listed in the first post of this thread were really mods, they were often making mod posts supporting each other in the same way they posted in support of each other as players within NGD.
I'm actually sick and tired of arguing about this. I personally don't feel the need to argue about this anymore, to sort out what is truth and what isn't, because I never plan to post on eq2players.com again unless I need tech support from an eq2 tech.
If anyone wants to discuss this matter for another ten or more pages, what I'm suggesting is that we use this
http://www.eq2flames.com/showthread.php?t=406 post instead, it is made expressly for that purpose. If you wanna just continue this post on forever, that's cool too, we can do that, I'm just asking that the argument be confined to a small number of individual posts rather than carried over into every post on this forum, because that will spoil the fun on this site for a lot of people and I don't want that to happen.
You are free to say anything you want here, and I won't edit you unless you violate the Site Rules linked in my sig file. I just again wanted to make that clear so you don't feel like you have less rights than me as a poster, even though I own this website.
Re: Out a moderator!
