Moxi

I see your point. But I think that any Mod given some time on the forums would begin to have biases against or for certain posters. Paid or not. Which means they would need a mod to mod the mods?

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Panthera

I think it is important to know if this is true. It speaks directly to the integrity of the process. If Sony had simply been up front and/or the people involved it wouldn't have mattered. It is the clandestine nature of a poster under one name participating in discussion and then using their mod power to anonymously effect that same discussion. It makes it all moot. How can you actively engage the debate if at any point the people you are disagreeing with can simply pull the plug when the discussion doesn't go their way?

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Moxi

Well Pan, hopefully they have some sort of rule in place that they cant post and mod on the same thread .. maybe? possibly? lol

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Savanja

Any mod isn't going to be liked by all. It's just how it goes. Faarwolf was a paid EQ2 mod, and she got a lot of complaints on her modding style, though I happened to like her. She had biases, she closed threads and deleted on whim because she could.

Panthera..I'd imagine that the mods would have rules that they'd be required to follow. It seems unlikely that admin would give posters the ability to run around and do as they please with no structure whatsoever, doesn't it?

Khalan

If Coyote and Radarx would get their hostile heads out of their asses for one second they would have understood my point.

Having Mods = Posters just goes to breed bad blood, favourtisim, and inconsistency.

Those same mods could abuse their power for whatever reason, the point is it totally devalues the integrity of the forums by having such a system in place much in the same way Fansites lose integrity by being censored from saying anything remotely anti-soe.

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Khalan

my thoughts exactly.

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Savanja

The system works really well on other forums..some have done it openly, others have not. Either way, I'd have more faith that Brenlo, BG, and Raijinn have SOME clue as to what's going in in their own realm. I wouldn't assume that it's a fave poster free for all.

Darammer

No Art, I made this account 'cause this thread seemed entertaining. Poking at you was just a happy side effect.

Some of the mods do a good job of keeping their biases in check; unfortunately, the most visible ones couldn't. And looking at the list of names from the first post, I'm flabbergasted at how some of those were chosen. Hell, even Gaige admitted he's a poor choice for a mod (granted, amidst his laughable denials of being one). And at least he actually seemed to recognize this, as Q never did too much modding.

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Arthais

I have been....busy I suppose is a word that's as good as any other.

New job, new apartment, new year older as of a week ago.

And ambitions are, of course, in the eye of the beholder, what's important to you is not necessarily important to me. Your priority is being home with your kid, and the work you do allows you to do that, so it's great that you can find a position to do that.

As for me though? Well I got no kids, so nothing to stay home for. I also have a lot of time and money invested in learning a rather unrelated skill set, one I myself love, and enjoy.

So for me fundamentally my desire to work from home is far less than my desire to both actually put my training in an area that I love to use, and, well quite frankly, to make money at it. As I said, I've intested my time and money into it, so I want a return on it.

What I want as a job is simply put not what this industry can give me, thus I set my sights elsewhere. It makes for a fun hobby though. And part of being a hobby means I don't get overly worked up over things like site hits, or who gets what. I do it for fun, it stops being fun, I stop doing it.

Your goals are, of course, different than mine. If it works for you, great, I'm honestly glad it works for you, when I say my goals are higher I simply mean that what i want to have but won't in this type of position far outweighs what I would gain from doing it.

It isn't the job I want to have. It's the hobby I want to have, no more. And I'm going to resist anything that pushes it from being "fun" to being "work".

But I'm glad it works for ya.

Arthais

I'm not sure I see how. It's not like on another forum we're suddenly more open with who we are. I'm not REALLY called arthais, my parents weren't QUITE that cruel when it came down to naming time.

If anything, the lesser degree of sensorship allows someone to be MORE upfront here about what's on his or her mind, not less. They only degree in which I'd see it differently is that the official forums may be larger, and you talk to the person directly, as opposed to coming here and talking about when he/she isn't present.

But if they're not here to see it...well, what noise does the fallen tree make in its lonesome?