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09-28-2006, 03:31 PM
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Administrator
Character: Retired
Guild: Onyx
Server: Nagafen
Posts: 9,124
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Re: Out a moderator!
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Originally Posted by Proc
It has made my horizontal bar start to scroll. Can you make it drop down into two rows, or kinda like 1 2 3 4 .... 40, you know what I mean? This is going to suck.
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Dammit, this sounds like a job for Niber.
Thanks for the heads up.
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09-28-2006, 03:33 PM
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Just found out I could do this and fuck if I know what to put here.
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Re: Out a moderator!
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Originally Posted by Elanie
I have the right to say that I thought it was a dickhead move, and watching the fallout and aftermath is making me unhappy, but there is nothing else I can do other than say it was a dickhead move.
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I think it was a great idea. Gives me some kind of idea who is fucking me over. I might also add that it caused me to have more respect for at least one of the people listed. Fuck me to my face if you want, but doing it behind my back is shitty. I applaud this "outing."
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09-28-2006, 03:35 PM
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Re: Out a moderator!
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Originally Posted by RadarX
You're still under the assumption there is truth to the original post. I've seen no solid evidence. I actually KNOW the truth for certain. How many of you do?
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You know, this raises an interesting point.
If the mods are supposed to be anon, their identity presumably should be known only to themselves and SOE.
So if you KNOW the truth for certain, how do you know?
The way the names were gathered, I assume, was through observation and guesswork.
The only way for you to KNOW, for certain, is if you were told by someone. Which means that somebody's been talking when they shouldn't have.
This right there proves a fundamental lack of integrity in the system. If you KNOW (emphasis yours, not mine) then somebody told. And if either the mods, or the SOE employees, are giving away confidential, intentionally secret information to NON staff, this just goes to prove my point.
If it's anonymous, it's anonymous for a reason, and if you KNOW, then whoever is supposed to be keeping it secret, isn't.
edit: and I, like you, also KNOW for certain a few things. And the reason I KNOW, is the same reason you KNOW, someone, or someones said things they shouldn't have. Neither you nor I SHOULD know. But we do. That right there is symptomatic of a problem.
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09-28-2006, 03:35 PM
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100% Anti-Dev
Character: Khalan/Kazaumi
Guild: Retired
Server: Oasis
Posts: 821
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Re: Out a moderator!
Only noobs have it on long mode. Change it in your CP to display the most threads per page, this is only 10 pages for me :D
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09-28-2006, 03:40 PM
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Character: Shiverr
Server: Evergrobb
Posts: 12
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Re: Out a moderator!
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Is this thread about stupid ass GM's, forum visual settings, or friggin outing mods? Guess everything keps getting dumped here because its the *hot* thread?
Huh?
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09-28-2006, 03:53 PM
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Booty Plunderer
Character: Nurta
Guild: Division of Anarchy
Server: Kithicor
Posts: 1,770
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Re: Out a moderator!
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Originally Posted by Arthais
You know, this raises an interesting point.
If the mods are supposed to be anon, their identity presumably should be known only to themselves and SOE.
So if you KNOW the truth for certain, how do you know?
The way the names were gathered, I assume, was through observation and guesswork.
The only way for you to KNOW, for certain, is if you were told by someone. Which means that somebody's been talking when they shouldn't have.
This right there proves a fundamental lack of integrity in the system. If you KNOW (emphasis yours, not mine) then somebody told. And if either the mods, or the SOE employees, are giving away confidential, intentionally secret information to NON staff, this just goes to prove my point.
If it's anonymous, it's anonymous for a reason, and if you KNOW, then whoever is supposed to be keeping it secret, isn't.
edit: and I, like you, also KNOW for certain a few things. And the reason I KNOW, is the same reason you KNOW, someone, or someones said things they shouldn't have. Neither you nor I SHOULD know. But we do. That right there is symptomatic of a problem.
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Ok but Art if the mod's don't have a list of guidelines or okay we'll use your word ethics then who is to say they can't say who they are?!? You don't know, I don't know, no one knows but the mods and the red names for sure oh b/c it's not listed anywhere. I for one don't just believe what is told me but rather prefer to see it for myself. Want to see how easy this is? I'm a mod! Elaine is a mod! Khalan is a mod! And they are mods b/c I KNOW they are mods b/c I'm telling you they are!!!
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09-28-2006, 03:58 PM
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Re: Out a moderator!
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Originally Posted by Nurta
Ok but Art if the mod's don't have a list of guidelines or okay we'll use your word ethics then who is to say they can't say who they are?!?
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Well, you kind of make my point Nurta.
Either there are guidelines but, as radar insist, he KNOWS who they are, then those guidelines are not being enforced.
Or they're not there. Which is in itself a problem because if the "anonymous" moderators can, as a matter of policy, identify themselves to whom they chose to and not to those they do not chose to, we're right back to conflict of interest.
So if Radar truly, factually, knows who they are, then either the guidelines aren't there, but should be, or are not being enfored, but should be.
I can't say for sure which. Neither seems a pleasant option. The alternative is to suggest Radar is lying, and i have no reason to believe he is.
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09-28-2006, 04:00 PM
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Character: Maelani
Guild: Revelations
Server: Unrest
Posts: 3,407
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Re: Out a moderator!
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Originally Posted by Nurta
Elaine is a mod!
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:mad: :mad: :mad:
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09-28-2006, 04:05 PM
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Booty Plunderer
Character: Nurta
Guild: Division of Anarchy
Server: Kithicor
Posts: 1,770
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Re: Out a moderator!
No my point is it doesn't matter b/c none of us but the mods and red names know for sure b/c it's not listed who is who. And by that same fact, there is no code of conduct posted for the mods to say they can't say who they are nor is there one stopping me saying soandso is a mod. I personally would be highly suspect of anyone who told me they were a mod or suchandsuch was a mod. Do you know what's funny, I never cared and I went rounds with a few of the mods and what's funnier I went rounds with some of the supposed mods outed here whom you or others might think would show me favoritism! Which again is what this boils down to again, an implied sense of favoritism.
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09-28-2006, 04:06 PM
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Whistling in the Dark
Character: Angua / Fishbu
Guild: Dissolution Quitter
Posts: 199
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Re: Out a moderator!
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Originally Posted by RadarX
Outting the mods was stupid and childish but...like I said scorned woman and all.
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I'm neither a woman, nor scorned.
If you're referring to my unidentified source, you're speculating that you know who it is. You assume that you know who it is, when really, you don't have a fucking clue, since I have not revealed my source, nor will I.
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