LFG

Lurkers are welcome here also, but I just think they'd be much more comfortable out of the closet and over here with the rest of us.

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Arthais

You all know how I get technical with rules. I am interested in seeing if, somewhere officially WRITTEN DOWN in the official rules of the forum is something saying "do not post the player names of the mods"

Oh don't get me wrong, I know they intend to make it against the rules, I know they act as if it is, I just wonder if somewhere it's actually THERE.

RadarX

I can simplify it for both of you pretty easy...

There are posts here that are openly critical of SOE and it's employees.

Those are SOE's boards and well....they make the rules as they see fit.

LFG could decide tommorow "You know what I'm going to explecative the word Ten Ton Hammer" and there wouldn't jack I could say about it. It's his board.

Savanja

The rules are posted, and it's not there. But I'd think that would go under the subjective idea of starting flaming and "inciting" the community, or even perhaps infringing on ones privacy rights. There are many of the standing rules that could be cited to fit.

RadarX

The forum rules have never been that specific, you know that. It's a policy driven system with a large number of judgement calls made. They put their faith in the people they chose to run the site.

Arthais

Privacy rights if I mentioned someone's real name...perhaps.

Actually, certainly.

Privacy right to not have it come out that someone who posts under one fake name also posts under another fake name...I dunno, not so sure.

As for flaming and inciting the community, I can imagine that's a rather subjective thing as well, and I could find it pretty difficult to argue that any mention, at any time, in any context of this can be considered "inciting".

Not that I'm saying it SHOULD be allowed, I'm just noting the interesting presence of a technicality loophole.

Savanja

*shrugs* I have never seen Raijinn argue any of his decisions, I don't believe he has to.

As for the privacy, I've seen plenty of posts disappear that name developers in game characters and guilds. And while it may not techinically break the rules, and it may or may not be removed (perhaps if you requested it) but if you didn't wish your in game char to be known, don't you feel it's your right not to share it?

Arthais

Perhaps that's just my irritating law training. The general theory of the legal system is, and I'm quoting a case I happen to be researching right now:

"ignorance of the law is not a defense, because everyone is assumed to know the law. However the presumption that everyone knows the law is based on the law being available to all. Those laws that are kept from the public eye can not be seen to have the weight of legal authority."

I've always agreed with that, my particular school of thought has always been "if you want a rule to be a rule, it is YOUR job as a company to make sure that this rule as known. If not, it's not a rule, and you have only yourself to blame when it is violated"

Nurta

That makes sense but even if said company doesn't make a rule a RULE who says they can't run things they want to b/c it's theirs to run how they see fit? SoE is a huge corporation and surely they have thought of most if not all arguments about rights and use of their forums and game itself. Again, I think this is somehow tied to the EULA and more than that to the simple fact that if someone doesn't like the practices no one is forcing them to continue the relationship they can quit at any time...be that the game or using the forums which they don't necessarily have to provide but do.

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Savanja

Well, luckily, this is a freakin forum, and not anything life changing. My guess? The rules are vague for a reason. It's not as if this is an uncommon idea. You keep things vague, and you can smoosh anything you want under them, and this certainly applies to far more than forums! I've seen this tactic used and manipulated quite a bit in business.