SANGRA - Deadly martial artist, budding philosopher, and model parent.
Okay y'all, as promised - some logs and a couple of screenshots.
If you can't be bothered to read the logs properly - basically she's a bit schitzophrenic and takes everything way too personally. On top of that, she has admitted to causing drama in one of her previous guilds.
There's not much dialogue from me to her - anyone who has spoken to Sangra before will know that somehow she can manage to get about 10 tells in before you can even reply once. All that deadly knife training must have paid off!
(1244747685)[Thu Jun 11 2045 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "keeping drama away does take a lil work"
And a few minutes later (regarding a coercer in-guild who she happened to not like)
(1244748280)[Thu Jun 11 2040 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "i would prefer if at all possible to sit out any raid he is in or be in another group"
(1244748323)[Thu Jun 11 2023 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "i have a profounds sense of justice"
And later, regarding something unrelated
(1245021837)[Mon Jun 15 0057 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "and i am not saying that, i know english is not your main language so i am being patient"
The funny thing about this is that I am English. It's definitely my main language... and I'm a bit better at it than she is.
Anyways - it's Sangra's life story time. This is how she told it to me.
(1245087742)[Mon Jun 15 1822 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "i was hurt in an accident filling a training contract for them and now they wont even pay my disability now that i cannot work"
(1245087780)[Mon Jun 15 1800 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "i got really lcky and got a civilian trainer contract"
(1245087801)[Mon Jun 15 1821 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "it was 4 6 week classes for a year"
(1245087817)[Mon Jun 15 1837 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "people here hurt eachother to get ahead"
(1245087824)[Mon Jun 15 1844 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "capitolism"
(1245087832)[Mon Jun 15 1852 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "uncheckecked capitolism"
Uncheckecked capitolism? Whew. Thank god no country employs THAT kind of capitolism.
(1245087861)[Mon Jun 15 1821 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "its every man for themself, if you fall you fall nobody helps you"
(1245087876)[Mon Jun 15 1836 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "and no medical care"
(1245087893)[Mon Jun 15 1853 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "my mate dropped out of college to work 2 jobs to pay for my medical treatment"
(1245087913)[Mon Jun 15 1813 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "even with insurance its over 30k a year"
(1245087946)[Mon Jun 15 1846 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "i got a temper i think because i am always in pain"
(1245087965)[Mon Jun 15 1805 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "i cant describe how much, there isnt words"
(1245088001)[Mon Jun 15 1841 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "which is what i told Ely, i try hard and put alot of effort into eq2 because its all i got left in my life right now"
(1245088024)[Mon Jun 15 1804 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "so i bring my intensity and obsessive dedication and loyalty with me"
(1245088044)[Mon Jun 15 1824 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "you give me a cause andi will kill myself to make it happen"
(1245088104)[Mon Jun 15 18:48:24 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "what would you expect from the daughter of a soldier, also i ama former bodyguard and martial arts teacher with a specialization in edged weaponry"
(1245088141)[Mon Jun 15 1801 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "its a hard job for a woman to get into, i had to try tentime harder than any man to get the same award"
(1245088201)[Mon Jun 15 1801 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "i made good money and i loved my work"
(1245088212)[Mon Jun 15 1812 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "but its not for the faint of heart"
(1245088243)[Mon Jun 15 1843 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "you have to be willing to die for a person you dont know and may not even like, it is the job"
(1245088292)[Mon Jun 15 1832 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "a hospital in Munich is doing experimental surgery that has a 44% cure rate for my nerve damage"
(1245088361)[Mon Jun 15 1841 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "if i can go there and be accpeted into the trials i have a 300,000 USD a year job waiting for mein the Philippines"
(1245088388)[Mon Jun 15 1808 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "my mate wants me to refuse it and finish my philosophy degree"
More life story
(1245544347)[Sun Jun 21 0127 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "got conscritped as free labor lol since one of my university majors was literature"
(1245544379)[Sun Jun 21 0159 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "my other major was education"
(1245544399)[Sun Jun 21 01:33:19 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "both pretty useless lol but both count towards my desired degree"
Admitting she's a bit "dramatic"
(1245544977)[Sun Jun 21 0157 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "LoH was my first guild here"
(1245544985)[Sun Jun 21 0105 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "they booted me"
(1245545032)[Sun Jun 21 0152 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "yes, said i was a troublemaker and that the guild could not tolerate the drama i caused"
Regarding the Vindheir council:
(1245621018)[Sun Jun 21 2218 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "the council is very secretive"
(1245621043)[Sun Jun 21 2243 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "you were likely cut out for speaking with me" (Note: I wasn't)
(1245621079)[Sun Jun 21 2219 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "(Anon) last night threatened to drop me as a friend if i didn t shut my muth and be silent"
Yup, her constant tells and complaining are really that bad. Shut yer muth!
And then comes the paranoia and shit-stirring. Elyshia was one of the council members who asked her to shut up after going on at him about the guild DKP system for FIVE HOURS:
(1245621122)[Sun Jun 21 2202 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "Elyshia is the problem"
(1245621178)[Sun Jun 21 2258 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "he is using me as a scapegoat for his behavior"
(1245621203)[Sun Jun 21 2223 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "and turning (Anon) against me"
(1245621261)[Sun Jun 21 2221 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "i wouldnt call anything he has done in the past few days fair"
(1245621279)[Sun Jun 21 2239 2009] You tell Sangra, "Anyone with a bad opinion of someone isn't going to have anything nice to say about that person. I think that goes for most people, really."
(1245621320)[Sun Jun 21 2220 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "i do have the ability and clout to destroy a person on this server"
It's the Sangra special! And here it is in screenshot form:
(1245621492)[Sun Jun 21 2212 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "(Anon) wot even speak to me now because i said i expect a public apology from Ely"
(1245621510)[Sun Jun 21 2230 2009] You tell Sangra, "I'm not really sure what you mean by that. If you mean you'll cause problems for Elyshia if he still thinks ill of you, I think that is something I wouldn't approve of myself."
(1245621581)[Sun Jun 21 2241 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "fair is fair though"
(1245621614)[Sun Jun 21 23:00:14 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "caused problems for me and has caused me a good deal of hurt"
This kind of reaction to someone asking you to shut up is a bit OTT.
(1245621635)[Sun Jun 21 23:00:35 2009] You tell Sangra, "I don't really think that would be fair. Everyone has the right to an opinion of someone else. If Elyshia were to harrass you and intentionally set about publicly humiliating you, then maybe something harsh in return would be warranted"
(1245621669)[Sun Jun 21 23:01:09 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "i would prefer the guild do right internally but i cant see that happening"
(1245621683)[Sun Jun 21 23:01:23 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "you are leaving council"
(1245621715)[Sun Jun 21 23:01:55 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "and everyone is rallying around to protect him knowing he is in the wring"
(1245621719)[Sun Jun 21 23:01:59 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "wrong**"
(1245621749)[Sun Jun 21 23:02:29 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "so i am left with just take it, or whisper in certian ears"
(Another threat)
(1245621786)[Sun Jun 21 23:03:06 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "i am a person still hun, i have been damaged by his chices and actions"
(1245621809)[Sun Jun 21 23:03:29 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "what makes his standing and reputation more important than my own?"
(1245621821)[Sun Jun 21 23:03:41 2009] You tell Sangra, "I will not stand for any more drama that comes of this - I don't care who is right, who is wrong, I just want it to stop."
(1245621822)[Sun Jun 21 23:03:42 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "i am not sayingi will do anything"
(1245621834)[Sun Jun 21 23:03:54 2009] Friend: Tsumaranai has logged out
(1245621864)[Sun Jun 21 23:04:24 2009] You tell Sangra, "Elyshia is a person who will leave you alone so long as you leave him alone - so just don't talk to him, and don't talk to people he knows about him... "
(1245621876)[Sun Jun 21 23:04:36 2009] You tell Sangra, "That's all you need to do"
(1245621943)[Sun Jun 21 23:05:43 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "so sacrifice my self respect to save his pride really"
(1245621979)[Sun Jun 21 23:06:19 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "sweep everything under the rug"
Fuck yes. All that happened was Elyshia told her to shut up... after she ranted at him for hours about the same thing, despite being told many times already that the council isn't interested in her proposal.
(1245622143)[Sun Jun 21 23:09:03 2009] You tell Sangra, "I don't stand for drama, I don't want anything to do with it. Elyshia is my friend and anything which could potentially lead to him leaving this game is something that contributes to the possibility that I'd no longer be able to play EQ2 with "
(1245622148)[Sun Jun 21 23:09:08 2009] You tell Sangra, "a good friend of mine"
(1245622172)[Sun Jun 21 23:09:32 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "i understand"
(1245622195)[Sun Jun 21 23:09:55 2009] Sangra left the guild.
And so, as fair as I think I am, I decided to respect her privacy in the reasons why she left the guild.
(1245622215)[Sun Jun 21 2315 2009] \aPC -1 Naiu:Naiu\/a says to the guild, "How come?"
(1245622242)[Sun Jun 21 2342 2009] \aPC -1 Qutie:Qutie\/a says to the guild, "?"
(1245622250)[Sun Jun 21 2350 2009] \aPC -1 Naiu:Naiu\/a says to the guild, "Sangra left the guild"
(1245622257)[Sun Jun 21 2357 2009] \aPC -1 Qutie:Qutie\/a says to the guild, "ah"
(1245622277)[Sun Jun 21 2317 2009] You say to the guild, "A number of reasons, but we should probably not talk about it. I'm sure Sangra would prefer it that way too."
(1245622296)[Sun Jun 21 2336 2009] \aPC -1 Thanatology:Thanatology\/a says to the guild, "As Leb says =)"
(1245622308)[Sun Jun 21 2348 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "and i cannot be part of a thing that cares nothing for fairness or morality and the right and the wrong f things"
Could someone tell me what a right f thing is?
Basically, she's having a fit at the fact that people got a bit annoyed with her endless tells and "I know best" attitude and tries to put it all down to unfairness on the council's part.
(1245622331)[Sun Jun 21 2311 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "i wish you the best as i know i will never hear from you again"
Damn right
(1245622352)[Sun Jun 21 2332 2009] \aPC -1 Naiu:Naiu\/a says to the guild, "I do certainly think that the guild should know the reason if someone leaves, dont have to be the whole story but atleast the short version."
Yes, valid point. So I explained the short story of why things went to shit with Sangra.
(1245622369)[Sun Jun 21 2349 2009] \aPC -1 Frikken:Frikken\/a says to the guild, "Short story ; Compatability"
(1245622380)[Sun Jun 21 2300 2009] You say to the guild, "Personal differences, I suppose."
(1245622388)[Sun Jun 21 2308 2009] You say to the guild, "But there should be no ill feelings."
Once again... you could probably expect some harsh words about the situation from someone less forgiving... but then this next shit pissed me right off.
(1245622423)[Sun Jun 21 2343 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "thanks for lying about why i left, i know you prefer it just be vague reasons, wow you two are really pieces of work"
(1245622466)[Sun Jun 21 2326 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "in time i will forgive you but never him"
And then the grand finale... (Regarding Elyshia and my decision to stick by him)
It's model parent time...
I'd have stayed out of this if she had shut her mouth instead of saying that. And what makes me laugh most about this is...
(1245088024)[Mon Jun 15 1804 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "so i bring my intensity and obsessive dedication and loyalty with me"
(1245088044)[Mon Jun 15 1824 2009] \aPC -1 Sangra:Sangra\/a tells you, "you give me a cause andi will kill myself to make it happen"
So doing something as immoral as blindly killing yourself for whatever cause a friend throws at you is right, but taking the side of a friend over someone I've known for all of 1 week is the height of ultimate evil?
Anyone else confused yet?