Sirren

We had a rather interesting encounter with this player last night in MMC. The group had cleared to the Sage's room and after a couple of room clears, finally spawned the Sage. So, we pull the sage and I noticed that there were repops at the door. Then out of nowhere, the door adds agro'd.

So, now we're fighting add group encounters and ultimately wipe. As I'm laying there watching things reset, I notice a player character appear right where we had been fighting then run to an opposite corner and reinvis. The player's name was Oakeesaeb. It's my belief that she trained us.

So, we revive and fight all the way back. There were too many see-invis mobs so smuggle was not an option.

We get back to the sage room and as you might expect, the room had repopped. However, the Sage was not there! Only three other ppl were even in the zone, and we knew those folks.

We managed to get the Sage to respawn and got trained again, but we still managed to win.

Now here's the thing. We could not invis to where we were. However, its apparent that the troub did. How? We think an exploit of some type. Were we followed to the sage room? Possibly, but not likely.

Where did the SAGE go? It didn't take us long to get to the Sage's room, so I really don't think the named despawned. Can anyone say if the nameds despawn in this zone? Ok, without a despawn, this troub solo'd the Sage! I'm crying exploit as I can't name or think of one Troub WW that can solo the Sage with 2 adds.

So, I'm rating this retard a 10 for;

1. Grieving my group repeatedly
2. Haxing invis and being able to move freely throughout MMC. wtf?
3. I didn't witness it, but I believe she exploited the Sage as well. I can't explain it otherwise.

Please make a macro and spam this exploiter off Nek.

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Sirren, 70 Brigand
Kithicor

"The villainy you teach me, I will execute,
and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction."

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Rinion

so..hes a exploiter because you got trained and wiped then your mob was gone and you THINK he exploited the Sage.

no people please dont make a macro and harass him, keep an eye out for him yes. Harass, no.

This is hardly proof that he did what you again *THINK* he did. its circumstantial at best.

did you see him pull the mobs that killed you? did you bother checking your combat logs to see if he is in them? do you even keep combat logs?

More Evidence please, less Hearsay.

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MysidiaDrakkenbane

I gave it a 4. It has potential.

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Widem

all i can say is this guy sounds resourceful.

but as far as him moving freely throug MMC there is a method called ghosting where you can essentially be invis but not getting into it b/c it IS an exploit. It was one of the 2 methods used to previously bypass the rumbler in EH.

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Rinion

Potential to what? not a single solid fact was presented other then, He was their.

how do you assume he exploited to invis down their? is it possible he was camped out their?

Again, more documented Facts please and less loads of crap. Thanks.

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Sirren

Yes, I have checked ACT and 4 encounters started with her taking damage followed by us. Don't be so skeptical :-)

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Sirren, 70 Brigand
Kithicor

"The villainy you teach me, I will execute,
and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction."

-William Shakespeare

Otis

Well then, you should have included that information in your original post instead of simply stating that it is your "belief".

Rinion

k, sounds good. can you post it?

Further more.. if you knew she was training you...why did you keep casting AEs?

its kind of hard to train in this game unless the person being trained Attacks the mob...

its like my job to be skeptical, I dont like people being falsely prosecuted and declared witches by the community based on speculation and hearsay.

nothing against you.

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Mable

MMC seems to be really bad for people training. Me and a group were being followed by 2 people one time and they continually tried to train us. They died each time because we saw them and knew what they were probably going to do. (2 naked erudites following your group in invis?? yeeah...)

But, really, what can you do? I doubt this person reads this site... There are idiots that try to train all over the place. It sucks, but it happens. Just watch out for people like that. Also, did you have see invis and see stealth? Because they could have been using see stealth and following you down but you couldnt see stealth. Oh and could the sage have despawned? Just trying to think of possibilities that could have made this possible....

I dont really know where I'm going with this so i guess i'll stop....

Arwenia

This thread is boring cause its all speculations and guesses. No real evidence has been posted to make it a real flame.

I rate it 2 only because he claims to have parses