Arcanas

No, I just never bothered to post anything on here, and as of late I had sever xfered and so redid the account to reflect my new name, so at least people know who it is. You have to be down right ignorent to go running through a game and not catch the trends of where people go, and I hardly believe many raids, even pick up raids, are going to look at you seriously. There is the saying that first impressions make the point, and when you show up with gear that was scavaged from lavastorm or feerrott, and with subpar app four spells, they going to see that you haven't made an attempt with yourself. If you haven't put work into yourself then no raid is going to believe you will put work into the raid, pick up or other wise. You don't walk into raids expecting people to take your hand and walk you through things. Not to mention you have the full plat farmer stereotype crawling all over you, and others mentioning you didn't even understand the mechanics of your class. Would you have at least gone out and gained a bit of expereince before trying to run head long into raiding? Or hell think...I'm lvl 70, my gear is around lvl 50...do you not see WTF is wrong with that?

phthalo

I'm going to go ahead and post here being that I am an officer/raid leader of the NRA.

I acutally was co-leading a raid or two where Estoofeuli actually got on to the list. I try not to discourage new signups so I was trying to be very nice and have him tag along to the easier KoS instances. I mean how much can you really screw those up these days. I was very curious how he'd do.

Now.. very briefly, the Nek Raid Alliance is geared for members of guilds who mostly do not raid on any regular basis with their guild, we all do it for fun in a casual way. Yet we favor those people willing to put in effort to know their class, be geared to perform and be setup to be beneficial to the raid as a whole AA wize. Whether thats enhancing buffs or doing more dps.. I'm not going to tell people what to do for the most part unless the choices are obviously not proper for the challenge. I also expect that healing parses and dps parses are ON PAR REGARDLESS of AA choices. Meaning that the way AA's are now, yes they are beneficial, but you should be able to pull a certain amount of DPS even if you don't have an optimal AA setup.
There are other factors such as in-combat time compared to the MT that we look at.

We also DO NOT advertise in 60-69 for more if we happen to be short. We send tells to online members who might be interested or go with what we have.

Estoo... You as a Necro parsed below the non-druid healers on the raid. So based on that alone, lets face it.. you're not coming back.
You also sent your pets in (because you didn't know that the icon you were pushing with a animal on it sent in a pet) and hit In and Out of Encounter Area attacks when you were told not to do so multiple times. This show's you're not able to follow instructions and have no comprehension of the class you supposedly leveled to 70. You also blamed the guild you were in at the time for your lack of understanding of your class, the game mechanics and your shit gear. You also gave out App IV hearts. You showed up with Apprentice IV spells on a RAID. WTF.

So ok.. i gave you the benefit of the doubt the first time.. i was trying to be nice and say... lets give this guy a chance. There are several people who took a note of your gear and performance and the next time you showed up.. nothing much changed other than the fact that you got an Adept III heart. Ulric, the lovable grumpy dwarf that he is, was NOT going to put up with you for yet another raid of your craptacular performance and ability.. so he got vocal. I'm not going to say anything about Ulric and the way he chooses to vent his frustration. You ticked him off and frankly IMHO rightly so. You expected us to replace your L50 gear with probable upgrades for the few other mages that did attend there. Being that we were /ran 100.. it was entirely possible for you to walk away with a couple good pieces and then guess what.. I bet you'd do a whole 15 more dps above the 250-300 you were pulling on 99% of the mobs we were fighting. NRA is not here to train people how to play their class by any means. If we (meaning the officers and a large amount of the regulars) like you and your potential, feel you need a bit of fine tuning, we will suggest to you how to do better in a raid situation.. But, in your case, you didn't even know what your spells did and you admitted it to us! Sorry, but we're not a start-up guild here in any stretch of the imagination. You also accused all of us of buying plat to get the gear we had... Not a very good impression to make.

And on top of that you were very disturbing in Ventrilo with your weird noises you were making at your cat.

So if you actually took the time to learn your class and gear up.. Good for you. I still find it fucked up that were looking to your guild or the NRA for handouts on what we as Raid Alliance have worked our asses on for over 2 years.

The successes we have we are extremely proud of and have worked very hard for as we do not actively make a habit in the least of having members of raiding guilds tag along with us to help us through these zones. We may use their strategies as listed on the intrawebz (and believe me every one of us is appreciative of the time and dedication those strats took to come up with) but we dont' have people holding our hands.. and more than one of us was a bit upset with having to bring you through a raid zone when you failed to pay any respect to the raid force you were attending it with.

Sorry your NRA experience was shitty.. But, in the end, i feel your Retard post was well deserved.

Ulric

OMFG! Lol, I had conveniently repressed that memory. It was an... odd... sound, but it made me laugh and kind of want to have a shower too. I guess calling it disturbing isn't far off the mark. It was right up there with the Silence of the Lambs crotch tuck dance. It's funny you remembered. I think Velv is gonna laugh when she is reminded about it. /Chewbacca sounds meet asthma attack melded with animal porn, lol

Estoo, when I first pointed out you had crap gear you could have turned it around for yourself with your response. Something along the lines of, "Yeah. You're right. I could get better gear off of green mobs in SoS. I guess I have a lot of catching up to do." would have been on par. I probably would have said, "You're right. Please do." and left it at that.

Instead you got very defensive and insulted everyone there. You still feel wronged. The fact that you don't understand how twenty three other people could have felt wronged or taken advantage of reinforces this post. If everyone else showed up in the same type of gear that you had on, how far would a raid force get? To the first mob?

Am I a dick for making this thread? Probably. I can live with that. Did it incite you at all to try harder? I hope so. I can live with that too. Nek server would be better off if more bullshit was called out when it happened, rather than let it slide with nothing ever being said, only to have it happen again and again.

Lunhilde

I've run into some folks on LDL who in 6 months managed to get to 70 and have no clue.. I've even taught paladins how to tank for groups (sigh) cause they managed somehow to be the tagalong 5th wheel for 70 levels and soloing and etc...

... but seriously. LDL is a roleplay server. We spent most of our time cyb0ring and gear at times can be secondary.

But shit. It is ever QUEST. You get level-specific gear from quests.. I'm boggled. So either this guy is doing a very good job of defending an ebay purchase (possible) or he really did manage to scrape a necro by in greygear (possible) though I remember the tutorial mentioning quite clearly something like, "Some of your equipment is far below your current level! .." and then a short explanation to gear up. So, yah, there were instructions built in, they popped up in a purple icon with a yellow question-mark on it.

Any game involvement at all would have let someone know their gear is bad; even casual grouping would have brought (or should have brought) comments of "Hey, your gear is really low".

Handled harshly? Maybe. But it sounds like it wasn't handled harshly the first time, and a very minimal effort was made to upgrade from that.

Unlike the rest of the game which got solo-ized to the point of pathetic, raiding still requires some level of gear. And no, people don't buy it with cash-bought plat.

I dunno. Good luck, or w/e. The 'we train new players' isn't clicked on my guild recruitment window for a reason.

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Cenarius

if your interested in your class, you would equip yourself better and better. There are a lot good treasure items in the broker, for sure better than t4 or t5 equip.

NEWB01

You have a lvl 70 toon and you openly admit you don't know what your pet spells are or what they do.

Only two possible reasons:

1. You bought your toon

2. You are a total fukin retard

I never played a necro, but did have a conj. Even if I bought a brand new 70 necro I would exactly which spells were pets and how to deploy them within 4 hours of playtime, and I am not that smart TBH.

I do remember running a parse in POF with a necro once, and his parce averaged around 150dps - at lvl 50+ something. You ever play on butcherblock? or have a brother that did?

Hoss

Ulric you are definitely an asshole. As we've seen from botters, necros can do a lot with shitty gear. I'm going to assume he mostly solo'd himself to 70, and I don't see anything he has said as being unbelievable.

What was supposed to clue him in that gear was that important? I bet the mobs he was killing were still dying. He probably decided that since he wasn't having trouble killing, he should just sell any tradeable loot he got, cause he knew of no other way to make money.

I think you guys are forgetting how clueless you all were when you first started. Those who have been playing for 2 years had a completely different learning curve, because EVERYONE was clueless. So as soon as a new piece of info was discovered, (like how important it is to upgrade spells) everyone was talking about it and everyone learned. Now, its all considered common knowledge, but rarely do the veteran players stop to think that nothing about this game is common knowledge. Everything you know about this game you were told, or you discovered through experimentation, and the vast majority of it was the former. Anyone who is any good and claims they figured out most of what they know on their own is a fucking liar.

I think the reason you guys keep railing on estoofooly is because you realize you fucked up. You wrongly pegged him as an ebayer, and in the process opened his eyes. Now you see that he is taking steps to get better and you realized you burned a bridge with someone that actually had pretty good potential. And BTW Estoo, the biggest step you took to get better is coming to EQ2Flames. There are people here who know their shit and are willing to suffer the n00b questions. Just do yourself a favor and search some recent topics for answers before you post new questions.

0 stars. Lamest Rate a Retard ever.


-h

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Lord, please pray for the soul of this bitch and guide my pimp hand and make it strong Lord, so that she might learn a hoe's place.

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Auroz

Estoo.. you obviously knew you sucked. I'm surprised you can type well, and aren't saying 'wtf u suck u guys r mean.' Because seriously... I don't believe its possible to get to 70 and not know what your spells do without being a complete idiot or competely not care.

Either way, idiots don't belong on raids, and raids are for people who CARE about their toon. You obviously didn't and just wanted to go for fun. You can't expect to grind to 70, ignoring level chat, ignoring the tutorial, not reading about your class on forums, not asking people questions... and then expect to RAID and be pissed people think you're an idiot not worthy of their time.

If you didn't know what your pets were (LOL) you were too lazy to READ the spells... you think a person that lazy deserves to have his hand held and stuff done for him?

Personally, I really can't believe someone would spend 50$ on a game and then be so lazy and shitty and not even try to improve himself (without expecting others to do it in raids.. ie... read your spells, read the tutorial the game gives you, read the forums) I just can't believe someone wouldn't care that much. I seriously think you bought your account, especially with a name that sounds like the plat seller names.

You admit you were a noob, but why for 6 months, you waited for someone to point you in the right direction? You needed someone to tell you to NOT ignore the tutorial in the begining on the game? You needed someone to point you in the right direction of the official forums? You needed someone to tell you to READ your spell descriptions?

No, I'm sure they didn't. They didn't have people to ask questions to since everyone was a newbie, they didn't have a zillion threads on the official forums to help them out. And I bet you, the tutorial in the begining was not as good as it is now since the developers have had lots of time to fine tune it and add things they may have missed in the begining.


From these posts, it sounds like they weren't pissed you didn't know about raiding, but that you didn't know the BASICS.

Who cares how long it took them to bring this up for you, the OP shows the conversaton where he tried to point you in the right direction, and you wouldn't have any of it.

And I can't believe in 70 levels, no one in a group with you told you your gear and hearts were shitty. That is why people think you bought your account. Its just crazy to think you never encountered this before.
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The tutorial in the begining of the game. Level chat. Official forums. Groups.
Of course, I am still learning from other people. However, if you start playing a new game YOU NEED TO TRY TO DISCOVER THINGS FOR YOURSELF. There is common knowledge in this game, like I'm repeating for the hundredth time, forums, tutorial.. you are expected to try to learn by yourself not wait for something to feed you.

I just hate people who get to 70 and obviously didn't try to improve by themself. Pisses me off when they are in a pickup raid or group with people who REALLY care about their toon and are affected by this crappy player.. people who don't take the initiative to find things out for themselves, don't deserve anything. IMO.

AND if this is a person with an actual mental impairment, or a child.. they shouldn't be playing a game they don't have the capacity to learn by themself. It affects other players. Play a non online game if your laziness or low intelligence if going to affect other players.

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Dedaehder

FUCKEM UP AUROZ!!!

MT DEFILER FTW!!!!!

/eat shit and die plat farmers

Hoss

No Auroz, reading the forums, any forums != common knowledge. I'd been playing well over a year before I started reading even the soe forums. Heck, it was probably close to 2 years, when did this game launch? I didn't have time for forums because all of my online leisure time was spend playing the game instead of browsing the web. Since I bought this game, my time spent downloading porn has been all but eliminated. The only time I get on boards now is at work, which will probably bite me in the ass at some point, because if I'm at home I'd rather be playing. So I can't blame anyone for not checking out the forums without a lot of nudging from people they play with. Thats what it took to get me looking.

Its far from obvious that he never tried to improve himself, in fact I think the exact opposite has been shown now that someone has taken the time to open his eyes, and he IS improving. Why did he have a brand new adept3 heart spell at the beginning of the original post? Because the last time, someone had explained to him how important the spell was to a raid so he did it. Those hearts don't do you any good if you are soloing, so was he being selfish getting that spell made?

Someday he'll look back and thank ulric for making him a better player, but he's still an asshole.


-h

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Let us Pray the Pimp's Prayer.
Lord, please pray for the soul of this bitch and guide my pimp hand and make it strong Lord, so that she might learn a hoe's place.

Amen