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    Default What pvp setup you using?

    Just curious what some of you that do warfronts do as your pvp role. Currently I switch between a sabo/ranger/blade to sabo/assassin/rift. Only lvl 35 atm. I like the versatility of the sabo so far. Does decent dps along with some snares/stuns. I use the ranger with sabo for ranged dps and the reduction in armor shot before i blast my charges.

    I use the sabo with assassin when i am playing defense or guarding a flag in codex for the stealth incapacitate. With the assassin incapacitate and sabo debilitating bomb with carpet bombing I can hold several ppl at bay for a short period of time.

    Thoughts?

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    Default Re: What pvp setup you using?

    marksman, marksman, and more marksman. at 50 melee builds are good for killing 1 person and then dying.

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    Default Re: What pvp setup you using?

    MM/Ranger/infiltrator, or Bard/Inf/Riftstalker if I need to heal.

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    Default Re: What pvp setup you using?

    I play one of two builds:

    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0M...tMG0gRs.xx0M0c

    This is my main pvp spec. Marksman attacks procing fell blades... I can take out undergeraed/noob healers solo and there's a lot of good survivability tools.

    The other spec I play is 44 sab/assasin/rng. I like playing this one in port scion - to aoe spam on the bridge, black garden when I have good healer support or against a premade in my server cluster that's 5 warriors who all assist each other. Usually they do well and tear through players, but ground effect cc magic from the build pretty much negates them.

    Edit - posted wrong build.

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    Default Re: What pvp setup you using?

    have a 51mm/10assn/5nb - brutal single target rapid long ranged DPS. Decent CC type abilities and burst movement abilities.

    51assn/10nb/5ranger - Ganking. Ninja'ing codex flags, killing fang/flag carriers, attempting to gank crystal carriers etc. Good if I'm left alone, perma stealth is nice. Slip away is a constant life saver. Delayed stealth break buff. It has its moments.

    51 sab/10assn/5nb - Mines and Traps are nice, huge AoE damage, and the burst damage from 5 bombs blowing up is helpful sometimes.

    I swap them constantly in WF's sometimes, they all have their strong points. I just like having a versatile rogue. Would like to add a bard or tank spec but I havn't bought a 4th yet and it'll be a long time till I afford the 5th.

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    Default Re: What pvp setup you using?

    I have yet to get less killing blows in a Warfront then any Marksman spec. I play the PVE 44 Sabo spec every time. It takes a long time to get a handle on positioning and kiting but, with this build, you can own some serious face without too much risk. I have played it almost exclusively from P1 to P3 and have yet to find a real problem with it. Not having Break Free can cause some issues, annihilation bomb becomes your friend here.

    I know the first sentence makes it sound like I am one of those sabs who blasts out AOE and steals killing blows but there is no other way to quantify a statement without giving a comparison. I assure you half my kills per WF are solo kills as I get bored of camping a spawn point. The single target burst and control you have (aoe silence, 4 stuns if needed, aoe snare) are amazing.

    The only spot where I have real issues is against a decent cleric (so I don't pick on them unless they are getting hit by someone else also) or warriors who spec to be basically immune to CC as they are almost immune to kiting as well after the second charge.

    Marksman is good but I've found Sab to be far superior. Most people discount Sab as they can no longer blow up whole scenarios by themselves but that doesn't mean they are bad

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    Default Re: What pvp setup you using?

    51 Sin/5 MM/10 Inf

    Be a stealth douche.

    When they try to kite you have Swiftshot at the bottom of your CP spam button, you won't waste the GCD and you'll get faster so you should be able to use a good finisher.

    Prob will drop to 2 in MM once i get another rank.
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    I ended up dropping assassin to try nightblade. Which as Sal said above me...half my usage of assassin was to, at least when the team is epically losing, I can be a stealth douche

    I'm getting clowned as shit by my nightblade setup though, I need to do a trial and error to see which of my 6 awesome buttons that make me hard to kill or move fast drop the fucking CTF flag. Cap it once, hit a button...okay, that was a bad idea I dropped it. Recap it, hit a diff button....okay guess I can't do that either. #$*#@*$#@ what is this point of these awesome buttons!?!

    /end rage

    Even with the 50% healing reduc proc though it didn't seem to phase many healers >.> Maybe i'm missing something major, just tried it last night anyway.

    Also sab is a lot of fun in WFs...just seems like half the time my target dies before I load up charges. CC effects are decent in WFs but I skip them a lot because of the diminishing returns deal with CC effects in WFs. Half the time they are just immune to whatever I do because someone else tried to CC them a bit ago. Half of the sabs deploy of cool CC just gets negated. Like carpet bombing is a wash because they become immune after the second bomb. It's tough though they have to have a diminishing returns of sorts because they gave people such OP possibilities of pure CC. Also if you try to CC a pvp spec'd soul it is pretty much a waste of time with all the duration reducers and break free effects. Even the goofy land mines ;/ once they hit 2 they can just plow through your mines like its nothing. If I got people surrounding me and a healer active, Sab is one of the most brutal things I've played.

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    Default Re: What pvp setup you using?

    Quote Originally Posted by dakkota View Post
    Also sab is a lot of fun in WFs...just seems like half the time my target dies before I load up charges. CC effects are decent in WFs but I skip them a lot because of the diminishing returns deal with CC effects in WFs. Half the time they are just immune to whatever I do because someone else tried to CC them a bit ago. Half of the sabs deploy of cool CC just gets negated. Like carpet bombing is a wash because they become immune after the second bomb. It's tough though they have to have a diminishing returns of sorts because they gave people such OP possibilities of pure CC. Also if you try to CC a pvp spec'd soul it is pretty much a waste of time with all the duration reducers and break free effects. Even the goofy land mines ;/ once they hit 2 they can just plow through your mines like its nothing. If I got people surrounding me and a healer active, Sab is one of the most brutal things I've played.
    Brutal good or brutal bad? You won't win any duels, and have crap survivability but you can sure pump out some great aoe dps. Mainly for cc I use the bombs, the aoe ground silence is nice, and the one that does damage over time is great in black garden to place where the flag spawns.

    You really do need healer support though.. I'll only play it in a pre-made in certain warfronts.

    About nightblade, you're probably running into issues because healers are self cleansing. On my 'oh shit' button one of the first things I do is self cleanse with curative waters to strip off all the debuffs, and fell blades and fiery spike can be cleansed.

    I also prefer range for pvp too... nightblade is great in duels, but I find in warfronts it's not as effective. Most healers don't know enough to deselect a target to find out who's attacking them against ranged classes. As a melee you're more likely to get detaunted and countered. Things like jumping can stop some of your abilities as well... whereas jumping against a ranged class doesn't do anything (but it's funny to watch them try).

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    Default Re: What pvp setup you using?

    I meant brutal as in good. I never play pre-mades (cause I don't really know many people in game) and always que solo. Sab is killer good though with a good team behind you no doubt. Yeah also with you that I use mostly annihilation bomb and the silencer one. Carpet bombing + the other dmg gas bomb is great for stopping a team from picking up items tho.

    You are probably right about the NB thing and it being cured off them. On top of having to get it to proc in the first place >.> Though I think nightblade may server well in good in small group situations where people are trying to burn down a healer. Even if its on them for a few heals, that can be critical if theres 3 - 4 people attacking them. My original plan was to have NB as a all-star CTF flag runner but that is kind of foiling lol. Def about the duels though, I used to guard Vault on my assassin sometimes and it was 50/50 if i won it. But with NB I have the 80% dmg reduction temp, 6 seconds of missing all attacks against me temp, 3 secs of immune temp, 15s of +50% dodge temp. If its a warrior or rogue (that isn't a NB too :/) trying to steal it, I found I stand solid ground. Just started experimenting with it an hour before I went to bed though last night, so I have to give it some time.

    Range is def FTW in PvP. I always laugh at stand offs near Codex with mages when they wait for me to approach then find themselves getting pelted with arrows cause I have 5m over their 30 ;D.

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