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Old 05-29-2008, 03:46 PM  
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No one cares.

Why?

Because you were horrible and never did anything.

You are? I'm just curious cause with a comment such as yours, one would have to assume for your sake that you've actually done something, otherwise you'd just be another no-name run-of-the-mill hypocrite.
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Old 05-29-2008, 03:48 PM  
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Honestly none of these fucktards minus a few faces have done anything, nor do i reconize most of the people who quit. Nobody (Again minus a few people) who left contributed a damn thing except whining like a little bitch, so tbh fuck em, were better off.
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Old 05-29-2008, 04:00 PM  
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You are? I'm just curious cause with a comment such as yours, one would have to assume for your sake that you've actually done something, otherwise you'd just be another no-name run-of-the-mill hypocrite.

Just a reminder but you were a horrible SK as well, you should join a different game to see if you can stop sucking there. Oh wait a minute you already did.
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Old 05-29-2008, 04:58 PM  
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We aren't as bad as we are cracked up to be.

I think most of our troubles arise from PoS SK's (or ignorant people that lack SK class knowledge) giving us a bad rep, which then undoubtebly sends word to the raiding core along the lines of "SK's suck, why would we want one." I've learned that most of those fucktards go with the general concept then, than looking into what we can actually add to a raidforce.

The truth of it in my opinion, and experience, is that I've done anything just as effectively as any guard I've grouped or raided with. I just think its a lot more work from the player-side as an SK.

Take Dogmae for example - I'd like him to chime in actually... How would you say he fares compared to the other 200 or so raiding guardians in EQ2 serverwide? I bet he could out tank 85-95% of the hardcore raiding Guards? Maybe I'm off a bit - but I bet its close.

Can I do as well as a VP geared Guardian from Confirmed? Hell no... not at this time at least. I will say that if I raided with them 7 nights a week though, that very soon I could easily tank VP as an SK. Sad thing is that its harder to get into a guild like that as an SK, as it is to take my own guild to VP.

Do I spend most of my time tanking? No, only when our guard is sick or something. Hell I just tanked PR and all but the OK in Kor-Sha the other night without any problems... with 3 groups nonetheless.

Its quite obvious that this expansion is in no way favorable for a SK, but its still liveable. I still get tells from random friends asking me to come tank this and that for them, because their guardian sucks and is losing agro.

I've tanked all the dominus (x4 mind you) with 2 healers in our 7 man raid. Last night I tanked chelsith with 0 healers, 2 assasins, and a brigand - the retarded healer left after the first worm because I didnt want to use my shield - looks to me like its the healer that sucked.

Now ask some guardians if they think they can pull either of those off.

If you cant cut it, I guess leaving is the only option at the moment. We will be back on top again sometime or another. All its going to take is some more diverse content that mixes single/AE targets more effectively, and walla, we have our niche again. But for now I'll just enjoy my three nights a week raiding, and see what happens in the future.
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Take Dogmae for example - I'd like him to chime in actually... How would you say he fares compared to the other 200 or so raiding guardians in EQ2 serverwide? I bet he could out tank 85-95% of the hardcore raiding Guards? Maybe I'm off a bit - but I bet its close.
I'm quite sure I could do that.
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Honestly none of these fucktards minus a few faces have done anything, nor do i reconize most of the people who quit. Nobody (Again minus a few people) who left contributed a damn thing except whining like a little bitch, so tbh fuck em, were better off.
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Hehe.. SKAR you rock.

Keep preaching the good shit!
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Old 05-29-2008, 11:45 PM  
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Just a reminder but you were a horrible SK as well, you should join a different game to see if you can stop sucking there. Oh wait a minute you already did.

Ahaha, who are you? How would you know if I was or not? How do you know I was even a SK? How do you know i'm not some damn random troll who played a bard? Your a piece of work.
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Old 05-29-2008, 11:54 PM  
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We aren't as bad as we are cracked up to be.

I think most of our troubles arise from PoS SK's (or ignorant people that lack SK class knowledge) giving us a bad rep, which then undoubtebly sends word to the raiding core along the lines of "SK's suck, why would we want one." I've learned that most of those fucktards go with the general concept then, than looking into what we can actually add to a raidforce.

The truth of it in my opinion, and experience, is that I've done anything just as effectively as any guard I've grouped or raided with. I just think its a lot more work from the player-side as an SK.

Take Dogmae for example - I'd like him to chime in actually... How would you say he fares compared to the other 200 or so raiding guardians in EQ2 serverwide? I bet he could out tank 85-95% of the hardcore raiding Guards? Maybe I'm off a bit - but I bet its close.

Can I do as well as a VP geared Guardian from Confirmed? Hell no... not at this time at least. I will say that if I raided with them 7 nights a week though, that very soon I could easily tank VP as an SK. Sad thing is that its harder to get into a guild like that as an SK, as it is to take my own guild to VP.

Do I spend most of my time tanking? No, only when our guard is sick or something. Hell I just tanked PR and all but the OK in Kor-Sha the other night without any problems... with 3 groups nonetheless.

Its quite obvious that this expansion is in no way favorable for a SK, but its still liveable. I still get tells from random friends asking me to come tank this and that for them, because their guardian sucks and is losing agro.

I've tanked all the dominus (x4 mind you) with 2 healers in our 7 man raid. Last night I tanked chelsith with 0 healers, 2 assasins, and a brigand - the retarded healer left after the first worm because I didnt want to use my shield - looks to me like its the healer that sucked.

Now ask some guardians if they think they can pull either of those off.

If you cant cut it, I guess leaving is the only option at the moment. We will be back on top again sometime or another. All its going to take is some more diverse content that mixes single/AE targets more effectively, and walla, we have our niche again. But for now I'll just enjoy my three nights a week raiding, and see what happens in the future.
Reroll to be a Guardian, and you could be the new tank for Confirmed. Now ain't that some shit?

Personally, what made me end up getting tired of the game was just lack of shit to do. EQ2 is boring, if I actually liked the raid content of RoK I might of stayed around, but that shit is subpar. I am not interested in going hardcore so feh.

I'm happier now that i've quit. I miss some friends, but I don't miss the game. I certainly don't miss $oE.
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Take Dogmae for example - I'd like him to chime in actually... How would you say he fares compared to the other 200 or so raiding guardians in EQ2 serverwide? I bet he could out tank 85-95% of the hardcore raiding Guards? Maybe I'm off a bit - but I bet its close.

I bet there are more People into Actually playing guards then is percieved here. Out of any class you can find some people that are realy good at certain aspects of it.

But does this dictate class balance ? No, I mean I can theoretically say that no class needs changing at all.. and that was before the ranger/coecer revamp...

To me, theres fundamental things that need to be looked into and overdue with the class. Esp direct number comparison wise. All you realy need to do is put the time and EFFORT into learning it, theres no magical thing about it.

Sitting here saying omg this person did this, this person did that, is not going to get us anywhere on this, and its not a even a valid discussion.. My Parses in SoH right now, are just below assasins, That is the only class thats beating me in DPS, NO others If we have 1 assasin in the raid, Im 2nd on parse.. if we have 2 im Third on parse, its a given at this time. But am i going to come here and spout out that SK DPS is just fine as it is ? No, Cause im Sitting here looking at, what the fuck it actually takes me to get to do that. and the simple fact that if I start straying from it, I'm Screwed.. The medium ground is my current focus, and what the class is actually supposed to do...

Things Like groups, is pretty much null, Its like assasins testing parseings on the wall in Kunzar, The wall does not have enought HP to actually be of any use ... Thats where we are at in group zones. The mobs have to low of DPS and To low on hit points to properly say about comparisons on them. With a great healer, Tanking is realy not a focus on these zones at all... But step into raid factor and you can start picking things apart.
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