No Hope for us as i can see :(

Deathknell · 05-19-2008, 11:57 AM

I understand. I also understand you probably aren't really all that interested in a "petition" about bards. You want attention paid to SK issues, and I'm afraid I can't help you much there (I'm a forum moderator, not a developer).

My advice is you need to continue to focus your issues minus the venom on the SK forum. Put yourselves in the shoes of a developer responsible for multiple areas of the game, you've just wandered over to the SK forums in the brief time you have to spend on the forums, and all you see is ... rants, complaining, and noise.

I understand some of you are really frustrated, but some of you assume the developers know exactly what your issues are, and it isn't always that simple. EQII is a HUGE game and what your issue is about I believe, is high end raiding. When a developer is barraged, for example, with "FIX SK's in '08" threads, they don't understand you're talking about high end raiding, their data says SK's are fine, and they start assuming the SK forum just has a handful of cranky posters.

You do have some issues, but you need to focus them more. Be clear what you are talking about (high end raiding), include data where possible, offer suggestions, and don't be greedy! If you want your class to be the best at everything, it is likely to be ignored -- you have to think like a developer and think about balance.

I hope that helps.

Lopann · 05-19-2008, 01:02 PM

Boohoo, tbh they know damn well what the problems are, and i highly doubt it would take a whole lot of looking into to fix, but fuck it its soe, how can you expect to get anything out of them...

Ramone · 05-19-2008, 06:17 PM

HAHA!!!

Pretty fucking funny ... we have done everything you have suggested so kindly fuck off.

SoE has no fucking idea on what EQ2 is to be. Perhaps when they do then they can fix classes.

To be honest, they need to fucking do a revamp of the game..... game engine, classes, AA's, encounters everything... But it won't happen they will keep putting out broke shit, and keep ass raping every class at one point or another.

/rant off

Istar · 05-19-2008, 10:22 PM

This makes me think, The devs are like children.... You know how many threads there are in that forum and corresponding forums that discuss the SK or related issues ?

The Venom, which in all is not that big in comparison, came after The ongoing Ignoreing of the class issues. This has compiled up for a very long time. and the issues stem realy far back... But these where ignored to the point where the gap that was created grew too wide.

Add in No Dev Discussion to the mix, and only responses that where made, where to lock people down.. and you get this...

Does an index of the the latest topics need to be made for them ? No lie, if that would do anything, I could do that in a few minutes...

But realy for them not to know what the heck is going on with the SK class, only means they have no clue about the game at this point and realy need to just step down and let more willing people that wish to improve the game to step up.

though that won't happen, So Instead they will take the few, or even one(doesnt matter how many) of the venom threads and throw it up as a shield of an excuse not to respond to the problems of this class. Thats all.. Thats why its been mentioned. Its easier to do that, then to tell the truth of the matter.

even on a straight disccussion that was made to fyrlite on legendary itemization, he ducked and ran to avoid the matter. Domino tried reverting it then quit. To much of this shit is an eyesore.. You don't even have to say a word on it, just show numbers at this point..

Ramone · 05-21-2008, 09:03 AM

Oh and OP, one last thing... If your a damn forum nazi, why don't you pull some fucking weight and talk to a dev yourself???

I mean you have the power to lock threads, delete, and edit them so why the fuck can't you balls up and talk to a dev?

I hear if you suck there dick they give strats and shit, so why not suck it and get some fixes for the SK class?

Just a thought.

Rokkual · 05-22-2008, 05:27 PM

The "venom" came after over three years of being ignored about SK issues. During this time most people gave up the class, or the game entirely. The people who are left are rightfully extremely pissed off.

Last time I checked, right before I quit EQ2, there was a very nice compilation thread of the SK raiding issues. If the dev's just blundered into the SK forums with no clue about the issues, then I have two questions:

1) Where the fuck have they been for the past three years?

2) Why the fuck aren't they doing their jobs?

When more people at SOE start getting fired due to downsizing, just point your finger at these out of touch losers you call "dev's", and ask them to pay your electric bill.

Rokkual · 05-22-2008, 05:29 PM

One more thing, tell the dev's to walk down the fucking hallway and ask Nandy wtf is wrong with SK's.

Pitty · 05-23-2008, 06:37 PM

yep time to hang up the boots

See yas in WoW until warhammer online comes out

Deule · 05-24-2008, 09:40 AM

Yeah, I am retired now. EQ2 has nothing more to offer me and I am sick of being the red headed step child. Been that way as long as I can remember and I made my SK at launch...SOE is losing some real good players now.

On the bright side...I am loving AoC. Playing a Dark Templar...and unlike EQ2 the classes seem to be much more balanced...the smoothest launch that I have seen in an MMO.

~Deule
Retired SK of Befallen

Tyirul · 05-24-2008, 12:04 PM

Wow, my question is does Milaga and Dogmae still actively play? Has either of them cancelled? Lopann is a pothead and goes and comes... so he doesn't count. Those are the only three old school sk's left I think...