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Old 07-30-2009, 07:43 AM  
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Hello, been a member for a while now but never really put finger to button to post.

I've been mulling over my AAExp for a while, in particular the Crusader section. From day dot of AAExp I was always told that STR/INT/STA where the stats to go for and reading through this site it has always been that.

I'm the MT in a casual guild, we're small time raids (T7) and early doors TSO stuff and as such not really hitting the tough stuff at the moment.

Last night I decided to tinker with my AAExp setup and go STR/WIS/INT instead just to see how things worked.

My current setup is as follows

STR
4-5-6-8-1
AGI
4-
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4-8-4-6-1
INT
4-4-8

With this setup I maxed my Spell Crits on the INT line and maxed Hate gain on the STR line.

As I'm not in a major guild this setup works quite well because I give back quite a bit to the group with the WIS line and gain immunity to fear.

Last night we didn't do anything too strenuous as we had a Wiz Epic bit to do in KC, but overall it felt quite comfortable.

The setup felt quite comfortable and we didn't have any problems that couldn't be handled (even if we were slightly over qualified for the L70 mobs.

I'm going to try it out tonight in a TSO zone, probably something easy like Deep Forge.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?
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Old 07-30-2009, 09:09 AM  
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fear line is pointess, it used to be good enough to get a spot on the mirrior, now its just a waste of time and i've cleared everything besides munzok. Either get DA or Trample.

As for maxing out hate in the STR line, different people have different op's on that. Personally i have it maxed because for me nothing else is worthwhile in the slightest to me from that line. I know of other people who max out the haste CA though (name escapes me).

But seriously, drop wiz.
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Old 07-30-2009, 11:04 AM  
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WIS is dead line. Fearless is useless unless you are soloing terror in SoF. The + skill effects have minimal impact, just about unmeasurable. The Ward is a joke. The +damage buff us also a joke.

If you want to do something other than the norm, go AGI and max out trample.
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Old 07-30-2009, 03:36 PM  
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its useless even against terror LOL

btw, at least get 8 points into double attack bonus in the str line, drop wiz go stamina / agility or straight stamina, choice is yours

edit - Agility / trample IS the norm for shadowknights these days, go against the tide, and take DA

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Old 07-30-2009, 09:11 PM  
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The wis endline is still useful against Terror.

I would disagree with the majority here and admit that WIS is a useful line -- but only for solo/single group play.

However if you want to raid in a serious fashion you'll dump it for better options. The fearless endline isn't terribly useful because its not a base increase in spells/heals/melee damage...its more akin to a 2% increase towards the cap. So if they are capped at spell damage or +heals (and most serious mages/healers will be) it does nothing for them. And the 2% increase in melee damage is calculated before application of strength...so much like riposte damage, it results in very little additional dps.

The group regenerating ward is a little bit better. Much like bard resistance buffs it can heal alot on AE heavy fights. But a mere 400 point ward isn't going to keep you alive versus epics like DA will, or help you hold aggro like AE auto attack.

STR is a necessity more for the endline, which gives you a personal TC, more than anything else. I guess the hate in the line can be useful if you MT all the time, however if you have even just a dirge in your group you'll often be hate capped. And most MT groups roll with Dirge+Coercer anyway, in which case you'd be way overcapped.

INT is necessary because the shit-ton of spell crits does the majority of our dps.

So it comes to to STA or AGI. STA is good because DA can actually be decent for a MT -- assuming you have Cleric/Shaman all the time, you'll have enough HP for it to work. AGI can be good if you're having AE aggro problems, or you just want more AE dps if you don't have survivability issues.

So its not necessarily that WIS is terrible, its just that the other trees are much better. SKs are lucky in that even our sucky trees have redeeming features.
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Old 08-01-2009, 01:37 PM  
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Great Thread, this has helped alot on my alt SK.
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Old 08-01-2009, 07:44 PM  
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Only two posts previous did someone answer your question. Also reroll the toon, 2aa @ lvl 25 is pathetic. 25 isn't high and can be reached within a few hours and you'll come out with more than 2aa.
This toon was created 4years ago little genius and was lvl 23 when I took him out of the dust.
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Old 08-10-2009, 11:23 PM  
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one recomendation, if you are not going to restart your toon...try int line 4-4-8, then switch them to reaver when you have enough AA's..I think its 21 AA's, then start back on the int line or whatever your crusader choice is.
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Old 08-14-2009, 11:41 AM  
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Hello,

I have read through this thread a few times, and it has helped me truely while I level up. At this point I am level 66 with around 77ish AA points, going from memory. Work has been hell this morning and is sapping my brain.

Now once I finish off the Hateful Slam (want the extra dps and threat), I am left with this question. AGI till Trample OR STA and get DA. I know with Trample it can hit up to 4 targets infront of me, (think it's four from what I read here). And DA well, it's an "Oh Shit" botton to keep my ass alive.

I plan on tanking instances, and I am far away from raiding since this is my first character in EQ2, but look into getting into it. Like I did for years in EQ1 and WoW. I know I need to upgrade my gear once I hit 80 till that is a valid option. Now while I work on tanking intances, which is the better spec to go with? Will I pug? Most likey, because most of my guild mates are on PST and I play EST. Knowing this makse me wish to go toward DA, but from what i read Trample is just so damn sexy.

I know I can mirror my abilites, but i don't forsee having to do this till a later point in the game. Unless thats what you all suggest I do. In which case I will take your advice like I have been. This is just one of the things I have been reading over and over trying to see the benefit to STA and AGI line and they are both so damn good.

Thank you a head of time.

Spec:
STR - 4.8.8.2.2
INT - 4.4.8
Shadow Knight:
Worked to Reaver.
Worked down to get the improved recast of Deathmarch, and now 2 or 3 points in Hateful Slam.

Figure once I hit 99 points I will work on the TSO tree, so I can get Knights Stance

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Old 08-14-2009, 12:14 PM  
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If you are MT with inconsistent grouping, and PUGs. DA all the way until you get Furor. Most people are fucking retards, so expect your PUG members to be retards. DA will help mitigate the damage retards will do.
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