books in Ward of Elements! - Page 3

kcooler · 06-30-2009, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Sallar

Ya cuz an ability that outright prevents ALL damage under 50% of your health for 10 sec is totally worthless. /sarcasm off.

In MT grp I am pushing 20k hp....I dont take many 10k hits, even from boss's (raid wide nukes notwithstanding)...so ya...its worth it if something bad happens and you lose a healer or something.

I don't deny its useful myself, but i don't use it aswell, i find between haveing 2 bloodletters, furor, Hateful respite... no need for it.. cause i feel if You have to click that AA its either
1. your healers suck
2. You're probly gonna wipe anyways cause u just went threw 2 bloodletters and furor.
3. if u spec'd trample mabe ud have the dps to hold your fucking aggro ;)
4. You healers gear sucks or they don't kno how to cure/heal themselve or move if thats why they died do to that.

P.S. Just stateing my oppinion towards, its def a useful spell, but i feel its a waste of aa's with all the utility we have nowadays to survive.

Zimrathon · 06-30-2009, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by kcooler

3. if u spec'd trample mabe ud have the dps to hold your fucking aggro ;)

Sorry but I don't follow. If you didn't have the aggro then u prob wouldn't be needing to put it up in the first place.

For me, I have DA and Trample mirrored. If I'm off out with a known group I'll spec Trample as I have trust in the healers I group with to keep me alive. If I don't know them, either PuG or PuR, then I'll typically spec DA as I am unsure of their ability to keep me alive.
And it has been useful countless times at just keeping me up through a healers stun or similar and on one or two occassions at actually finishing off a boss with the rest of the group dead due to healing myself to full through taps whilst it's up.

Sallar · 06-30-2009, 01:36 PM

Agro and Divine Aura dont necessarily go hand in hand. Tample is good and I do keep it in a mirror as well. However for raids, and PuG's DA is more usefull.

But since Agro was brought up....

Even with trample, holding on to all of those mobs is a nightmare. Our AE damage spells wont hit em all, while the AE taunt doesnt have a target limit (Ithink), the chances of hitting em all is slim, the room is pretty big. So like my other post said....encounter becomes trivial with 2 tanks, with no deaths...well maybe the over eager Warlock...but thats accpetable losses lol.

And...unfortunaly I dont have the 2 Bloodletter triggers yet.../cry

Druuna · 06-30-2009, 03:21 PM

AEA is just a parse inflater... all you need to hold aoe aggro is a troub to jcap, and you cast sacrament, after thats up, death march if you need it, obviously spam aoe's, if you can't hold aggro without AEA, you are terrible, re fucking roll please.

Brondon · 06-30-2009, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Druuna

AEA is just a parse inflater... all you need to hold aoe aggro is a troub to jcap, and you cast sacrament, after thats up, death march if you need it, obviously spam aoe's, if you can't hold aggro without AEA, you are terrible, re fucking roll please.

In other words he is saying play a SK right or re-roll a monk so you can solo PR like he caught me doing one day

Sallar · 06-30-2009, 08:27 PM

1. Didnt say I couldnt. I said it was a nightmare. That many mobs = too many chances to have stuff resisted, and be torn off.
2. Dont have a troub in MT grp.
3. Solo PR? Screenshots / Parse / Witness's or it didnt happen.
4. End of the day, 2 tank strat for the books is by far the easiest way, with less chances of something going wrong.

kcooler · 06-30-2009, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sallar

1. Didnt say I couldnt. I said it was a nightmare. That many mobs = too many chances to have stuff resisted, and be torn off.
2. Dont have a troub in MT grp.
3. Solo PR? Screenshots / Parse / Witness's or it didnt happen.
4. End of the day, 2 tank strat for the books is by far the easiest way, with less chances of something going wrong.

Tab targeting makes the world a better place, just sayin....;P

Brondon · 07-01-2009, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Sallar

3. Solo PR? Screenshots / Parse / Witness's or it didnt happen.

Drunna and I joke about it since he was running a x2 PR group one day and i was in G3 of that raid and he gives me crap about soloing PR

Sallar · 07-01-2009, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Brondon

Drunna and I joke about it since he was running a x2 PR group one day and i was in G3 of that raid and he gives me crap about soloing PR

Damn...and I had a "Nerf Monks" thread all set and ready to post!

Brondon · 07-01-2009, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Sallar

Damn...and I had a "Nerf Monks" thread all set and ready to post!

SOE wont care, we are already shoved in the dirt as is so only luvin we are going to get is in Feb of next year then a month after that, give or take, we will get nerfed