Help with macro for raiding - Page 3

Lucutious · 02-20-2008, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Padrich

You sir... Are the biggest fucking idiot I have ever encountered.

I figured I'd give you benefit of the doubt and test this... Here are the results. and everything wrong with your post.

1. You can ONLY place 10... ONLY 10 CA's into 1 macro.
2. There is NO POSSIBLE way to "prioritize" what order they go in... there is only a primary check box and only 1 of the 10 allowed in a macro can be checked.
3. AGAIN I WILL SAY!!! Out of all 10 CA's I placed in this macro ONLY the FIRST and LAST of the macro'ed CA's went off. Everything in between the first and last were compeltely ignored.
4. THEN WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU ON OUR FORUMS LET ALONE THIS THREAD TRYING TO GIVE ADVICE!?!?!?

So who's wrong? You are... Get a fucking brain, don't speak on issues you know clearly nothing about, or trying being halfway intelligent and test something out to see if there is any validity in your theories.

K thanks, Bye!

Answering your numbered points, respectively:
1) Try using commands, such as /usea (CA Name). Then, a magical thing called a semicolon, and then another /usea (CA Name). I bet you can fit more than 10!

2) Sure there is. You list them like this:
: ; usea Most-DPS-CA ; usea Second-Most-DPS-CA ; usea Third-Most-DPS-CA ; etc...

When you press the button once, it'll fire the first thing available, then queue the 2nd, but there's a 3rd command so the 3rd command puts the 3rd one in queue. This is the first and last effect you refer to. If you push the button again, then the first CA is down so it skips it, and it'll fire the second most DPS CA, etc. The moment the number 1 DPS CA is available, it'll launch again.

3) They weren't ignored, they were processed. If you seriously thought you could cram everything into 1 hotkey and push it, then walk away for 2 minutes while everything runs, then you're sadly mistaken. This uses the premise that you are pushing the button more than once.

4) The only reason I came was actually to the Swashy forum was to get info on the Pirate Jones to help out a friend. I saw this thread, and decided to clear up an inaccurate statement.

Huggles!

(P.S. Anger management, dude. It's not like I kicked your dog or anything...)

Padrich · 02-20-2008, 07:39 PM

If you had kicked my dog i'd have killed you... And I did not use text commands but I'll check that out but pretty sure it'll do the same thing. Lemme go check...

/uses port hammer

5 minutes laters...

And still no. ; and all here's what i placed in the macro line

: ; usea Walk the Plank ; usea Kidney Stab ; usea Cheap Shot ; usea Lung Bleed ; usea Sack

You're point is correct. With commands you can fit more then just 10 CA's on one macro...

My point still stands. Walk the Plank activated. And Sack Activated... Kidney Stab, Lung Bleed, And Cheap Shot... They we're all passed up.

The reason I'm making it a point to correct you is because, a lot of swashbucklers come here for help... And getting useless help from a gaurdian who has stated he knows nothing of the class... Will not better their ability as a swashbuckler. Especially with false information.

I appluad they effort on finding info for pirate jones... Just should have checked there and left or validated what you were about to say was correct before typing it... This is however EQ2 flames.

/huggles!

Sqee · 02-20-2008, 07:54 PM

I'm not a swashy so i'll keep it basic, i have every one of my spells macro'd in some way or another - i have since we were able to way back when. My favorite is the HO macro's, for you scouts it would be a bit more of a PETA than its worth, but its still hawt.

For instance with macro's, i have first and last as the same timers so when one comes up i'll have the other, as a bruiser i like to knock stuff down, so every one of my buttons has a knockback on it too.

I keep the fast casting ones up in 1, 2, 3 - HO Macro is at 4, my two biggest hits are at 5, group taunt at 6 then some other big hitters down the path.

1,2,3,4,5,6 are all keyed by hand, same as the ALT 1,2,3 which is Mend, short dur buff, and knockout buff. Rest is all done hitting the mouse, so i can keep my CA's circulating rather quickly. I also have odd ball ones tied into the middle of my 1,2,3 - just random stuff that you get that has no real place other than being a CA, that way you use up your 2 legit ones on that button and when all your CA's are shot you can cycle back through them to pick up the slag.

I have 3 bars full, 0, is my buffs and is hidden off screen - i can SHIFT 0 over to it after i've died or what ever, and my stealth / fd (depending on class) is hot key'd to the E button, where Q is sit/stand... allowing me to enter stealth pretty easy as i use the wasd buttons to run, well.. that and the mouse.

oh, and Padrich.. um.. yes, you can use 1 macro to have the bulk of your CA's run, but you'd have to hit that one macro a billion times in a row. As spells run out it will skip down the happy line until one actually casts - so you'll cast the first and last available spells in that chain.

Of course, using one macro for everything is semi retarded, some you have to be in front / side of the mob, others behind / side of mob -- others in Stealth others break steal to no avail, others put you in stealth.. So Learn your spells and macro appropriatly.

Mass Macro = bad
2 / 3 = good

Jharek · 02-20-2008, 08:08 PM

macros bad

auto attack damage good

go away and stop giving people bad ideas.

Sqee · 02-20-2008, 08:09 PM

Yes, but using my set up, you get to time CA's between Auto attacks. Macro's good because having 14 hot bars up makes for bad mess.

Lucutious · 02-20-2008, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sqee

oh, and Padrich.. um.. yes, you can use 1 macro to have the bulk of your CA's run, but you'd have to hit that one macro a billion times in a row. As spells run out it will skip down the happy line until one actually casts - so you'll cast the first and last available spells in that chain.

Of course, using one macro for everything is semi retarded, some you have to be in front / side of the mob, others behind / side of mob -- others in Stealth others break steal to no avail, others put you in stealth.. So Learn your spells and macro appropriatly.

Mass Macro = bad
2 / 3 = good

Exactly what I was saying, thank you. In my first post I also stated that I didn't know the Swashy class, so getting the positional / steal CA's in there I don't think would work.

For a MT, however, after my opening sequence, done manually, I literally can and do toss everything into one hotkey and go to town with 1 button. Since a mouseclick overrides macro commands, I can still be ready with all my guardian tanking stuffs like tower of stone and whatnot when shit hits the fan, but this whole macro concept prevents playing whack-a-mole with CA's in a burn situation.

And, since it is EQ2Flames, as you so eloquently pointed out... Told ya so.

miguex · 02-20-2008, 08:20 PM

hi, i played a cleric in eq1 for 4 years, let me get my 2 cents in here....

Jharek · 02-20-2008, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sqee

Yes, but using my set up, you get to time CA's between Auto attacks. Macro's good because having 14 hot bars up makes for bad mess.

nonsense. mouseover the stuff you don't use in combat and you're left with 4 or 5 max, including all your potions AND cooldowns.

By the time you've finished pissing around making macros you end up using more space - with positionals and stealths and whatever else, you're making it way too hard for yourself. And what happens when you need a particular CA? It's stuck inside a macro... um which one? let me check.... pointless. If you're trying to maximize damage by laying on debuffs in the right order and they come from different positionals, how's that going to work? and adjusting around a mob? got a different set of macros for every time you have to change position? Just keep it simple, they could train monkeys to work those hotbars, it really not that difficult.
Also, one last time, if you're throwing in 2 or 3 CAs you're fucking up your AA timing and losing DPS. Which was the whole point of this thread...

Scayre · 02-20-2008, 09:17 PM

/usea Lucky Break
/usea Double-Cross
/usea Bedazzling Steel
Easy HO macro for a Swash, same idea for any other scout.

Padrich · 02-20-2008, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucutious

Exactly what I was saying, thank you. In my first post I also stated that I didn't know the Swashy class, so getting the positional / steal CA's in there I don't think would work.

For a MT, however, after my opening sequence, done manually, I literally can and do toss everything into one hotkey and go to town with 1 button. Since a mouseclick overrides macro commands, I can still be ready with all my guardian tanking stuffs like tower of stone and whatnot when shit hits the fan, but this whole macro concept prevents playing whack-a-mole with CA's in a burn situation.

And, since it is EQ2Flames, as you so eloquently pointed out... Told ya so.

Didn't quite understand what you were trying to get out on that first post. sounded as though you meant you could hit it once walk away make a sandwhich come back and everything ever would be dead with one mouse click...

Regardless thank you bruiser for making a point and wording it to make sense... gaurdian why do you even play if you just mash one button?