Crychtonn - Bylar

Considering there are people in the thread complainging about how you got less of this and less of that in regards to stats ect it's at least some what important. All I pointed out was while you got less then some there are others that got even less then you.

Krontak

hey swashy's. apparently our weapon is appropriate so everyone needs get back in thier corners and take it up the ass like a champ, capiche?

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Padrich

No i won't degrade my swashy status to flaming homo.

Stats issues - Wasted points in sta... We're not tanks. Put 14 of the sta points into INT.

Proc issues - 8% to our hate Xfer for 12 seconds... WTF i don't think i've met a raid swash yet that has a problem controlling their aggro. In groups that's a different thing but then it's usually just the tank sucking balls. (make it perma so we have something to offer to MT group over assassins on occasion or replace it with something else like Hrmm... A class defining feature like group or raid wide inspire. O.o)

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10% spell dmaage reduction to TS!!! Come the fuck on. That ability hardly even lands on these T8 mobs not to mention we haven't needed it yet. why the fuck do we need it now. (again make TS hit more often, or get rid of it and replace with i dunno... A dps haste mod for 24 seconds. Something that improves our overall DPS... I thought that's what a swash was at least until I saw this weapon. Feel like a coercer sporting this tho.)

Other then that I don't mind it but the things i mentioned are friggin retarded. I'd even avoid looking at the lack of 25 power that <coughs> brigands <coughs> have over our epic if these issues did not exsist. But that's what happens when Aerilik is in charge of something. Take a look at another not-so-class defeinging epic made by the same dev... The zerker epic.

In short. Zerkers and Swashy's got fucking shafted. If you're not a swash no point in even posting on this thread cause you obviously don't understand.

Symbolic

I think he's referring to the fact that you sold it to a vendor.

Runaf

As a weapon you can get from some simple heroic questing and a few easy raid kills, I really can't honestly say that I'm that unhappy with our reward. As a weapon that is supposed to be our epic, the end-all, tier defying item that is supposed to be the best available (ie: the Guardian and Monk epics) I'm dissapointed.

The hate transfer, while it's not what I was looking for and is really almost unnecessary for MT swashbucklers, should at least be permanent. The proc itself, while the 3.0/min is decent, should not have been a DoT (especially such a long DoT) and ought to just trigger more direct damage once.

10% CA damage, that I'm sure is limited by the +CA damage cap, is mediocre at best.

The 10% spell damage reduction, while on paper it sounds decent, is not exactly class-defining and probably won't be effective enough to use past this expansion. Also, the fact that it requires a specific AA line is disappointing. On top of all that, it's rumored to be over-written by the brigand swipe.

In all honesty, it's not the worst epic I've seen thrown out there, but it's far from being useful beyond the immediate tier. There is a lot room for improvement and it should better reflect our role as a class than it does in it's current state.

Sinnach

1) Remove the hate transfer proc. No one wants this, or is having aggro problems. Add crit, or da, or haste or dps mod.

2)Change the +10% ca mod to be +10% autoattack mod.

3)Change the focus from traumatic swipe to lung bleed. Modify it to include autoattack and ca dmg.

Boom! The effects go from total junk to middle-of-the-road decent.

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Bellabutton

and a clicky effect to summon that fucking bird ftw.

Leithe

Good ideas, Sinnach, though I actually wouldn't mind the hate transfer if it was a group-wide hate transfer to the fighter(s) in the group, thus solidifying a swashbuckler's spot in an MT/OT group. But I wouldn't mind having crit/DA/Haste/DPS over that, either.

As for whoever posted about sta and int....Yeah, some of us prefer health and survivability over poison damage. I just buy potions for that stuff. And yes... I do realize the same can be done for health.

Both are nice, but I wouldn't sacrifice stamina for int. Personal preference.

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Saviormus

str line 4tw, 120 dr 4tw

nuff said

Koldsteel

Not having the mythical epic yet and praising it ftl?