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Old 04-13-2009, 09:54 AM  
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can gear make the diff between 3.5 and 7-12k?
Yeah... the DA, MC, +CA, stats, procs.

Dont forget the buffs as well, and weapons you have.
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Old 04-13-2009, 07:34 PM  
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If your trying to learn how to time auto attacks you don't need to download a plug in, you can setup your own in ACT assuming that you run it like most do.

Under Triggers/Sounds Tab, look at the sub-tab 'Triggers' ->
Custom Trigger: select 'Beep'
Next your going to add a series of events to determine your auto's.
Under Regular Expression add the following:

.*YOU hit.*
.*YOU miss.*
.*YOU critically hit.*


-------------------------Those will account for when you hit the mob. When you do hit or miss it will give you a Microsoft Beep noise. Easiest way to get a feel for it, is grab a training dummy and try spacing different amount of CA's between your 'Beeps'. Typically for me it is 2 CA - 1 AA - 2 CA - 1AA. However with a buff like Alacrity, you can successfully squeeze in 3 CA - 1 AA - 3 CA - 1AA.

As far as temps I typically couple Inspiration with On Guard and space out Perfect Finesse and Ruthless Cunning. Other temp buffs you can get your hands on are the Lycanthropic Rage items.

Lycanthropic Rage items--
\aITEM 1013922953 1725328454:[Cursed Coif]\/a
\aITEM 1678333498 -1479412105:[Lycanthrope Bracelet]\/a

Typically I use those items when I do get alacrity since they only proc off a combat art and not an auto attack. I only have the hat atm since they removed the box's from that zone =/.

As far as casting order is concerned debuffs are always priority, like someone stated earlier I hit Eye Point on incoming while the mob is running towards us before its spun to drop Parry, followed immediately by Lung Bleed. After that I use the Heroic Opportunity Macro not only for the debuffs but if you have your 4set from TSO you get an extra 10 double attack from Bedazzling Steel. After that I have a pretty generic run through of CA's that I go through. Typically on the incoming hitting the Eye Point -> Lung Bleed -> HO Macro the mob is just being dispatched so it's right on time to hit the bigger CA's like Sack/Uncanny Thrusts/Triple Blades. Someone else said they open with Stealthy Charge, don't remember who exactly, but I wouldn't do that. I just use Boot Dagger to tie it in between auto attacks. If I'm really hunting for a little extra on incoming I'll start casting Swathe since it takes forever compared to other CA's. Honestly it's been said over and over, just do what works for you. If your not comfortable with an order someone shows you on here your not going to be efficient. Always be open to try other orders but you'll get a flow going after you raid for awhile and it will work for you.

Some other trigger's I use in ACT:
.*You feel inspired by the Jester.* -- TTS: Jay Capped (writing J cap the voice just sounds like a lil noise followed by cap)
.*'s Dispatched(?: critically)? hits .* for .* slashing damage.* --TTS: Dispatched

I also have a trigger for RoA but since RoA doesn't insert ANY emote into the game it has to be based off a macro that is either said in group chat or a tell or something.

Ex: Shaman tells you, "RoA go nuts!"
.*RoA go nuts.* --TTS: Alacrity

If you need help setting up your ACT or w/e shoot me a tell Blackburrow.Logix and I'll try to help ya.
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Old 04-22-2009, 07:46 PM  
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Some thing i do with my Ca so i know they will have the perfect timing is macros...now mine probably different but sot me well

triple blade with flashy strike < same timers!
heal cut with bedaz st.. ////same timers
trickery with Ho....and then i have HEal /be in next hot key
boot and dagger with stealthy charge....know i can if i want use deaggro to pop stealthy a 2 nd time ....so when BD is up stealthy can be hit for the 3 time depends on fight ..figured for longer fights!
on inc i toss daggers at mob then when in range eye point if up
i start out with thieving essence cause of the group buff..hoping it does not miss! triple blade/flashy trickery ho then ..heal cut macro/bedazz.. kidney then all single out hell form there...when all single are down,, 3 aoes hit one,, Auto ect...most of this is 2 Ca then auto attack ..some times if all Ca are down< very rare almost never...i back up 2 meter and use daggers! it all a matter of what your doing trash is basically what every i have up ....

Oh and i know how much time i have usually between named, so i use all 4 temp as much as possible!
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Old 04-27-2009, 05:55 AM  
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While I'm sure that made perfect sense, it was as hard to read as chinese. Thank you though...
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I've been tweeking my casting order and got it down just about perfect but i'm still only maxin at 3.5k or so, mind you my gear isnt exactly top notch, lol, I mean I just got my fabled epic and I only own a couple pieces of t1 shard armor(been savin shards for my guard) even still, can gear make that huge of a difference? I mean it's not exactly like i'm useing treasured, it's still decent rok gear, not fabled either but, well ya get the point, can gear make the diff between 3.5 and 7-12k?
IMO , if this were RoK still. then putting the gear into consideration wouldn't be as harsh as the gear availability now in TSO. meaning, yes i believe NOW , rather than in the past expansions, gear means soooo much in comparison. with just T1/T2 and your fabled epic, you can blow off 5k on the training dummy, trust me , ive shown ppl on my server how. but as far as DPS goes on a training dummy, there are a few things you need to put into consideration; it doesn't fight back, so yeah you dont need to worry about a sucky tank etc.. also it has an extensive amount of HP, most fights in a group are between 7-16 seconds long. and then you're solo, no group buffs etc... so the ONLY thing the training dummy is worth, is the fact that it teaches you to watch for auto-attack better.
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Old 05-09-2009, 11:43 AM  
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You can use as many CA's (or whatever) as you want if you can spam the Macro.
It continuously restarts the macro and uses the first one that is not on timer.
If a CA has a very short re-cast, followed by a long recast it may execute twice.
Spamming the Macro is not always possible.
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